Episode Transcript
[00:00:12] Speaker A: Hey, he's run off already.
[00:00:17] Speaker B: First episode.
[00:00:18] Speaker A: He's run off. I've scared him off already.
[00:00:21] Speaker C: No, to make woggett logs look good.
[00:00:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:00:24] Speaker A: Oh, cool. Hey, if you can hear these weird noises in the background, it sounds like gremlins. They're the dogs that have just had dinner and now they're ready to face off with each other.
[00:00:35] Speaker C: Now you tell me I wouldn't shut my door for some privacy and you let the dogs in.
[00:00:39] Speaker A: Oh, I can't help it.
[00:00:40] Speaker C: Let the dogs out.
[00:00:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:00:43] Speaker A: So just quickly, just so everyone knows, a pair of old jocks, I'll just bring up the. That's the logo for us there. The pair of old jocks. Every time I bring up the logo, it drops your microphone out. I better put it back on. So that's the logo for us. So, yeah, pair of old jocks. Because we used to dj years and years and years ago. Back in the. Back in the day.
[00:01:06] Speaker C: Yeah.
When I describe the people, don't take this the wrong way. It's like, oh, yeah, it's a guy who's got his Internet radio station. I gave him a leg up in djing.
[00:01:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:01:20] Speaker A: Do you know how long ago it was?
[00:01:23] Speaker C: Well, when I. When I did the bio, it was. It was when I was at whiskey a go go, wasn't it?
[00:01:29] Speaker A: No, at Leisure Inn.
[00:01:32] Speaker B: Oh, was it? Mm hmm.
[00:01:34] Speaker A: The leisure inn. And it was just before. It was before, um. The swinging pig.
[00:01:40] Speaker C: Yeah. Oh, well, before, yes. Um, we were both.
Remember back in the day, you get these awesome wind cheaters from seaside sounds, you know. And I had my Paul young on one, strangely enough. Yeah, not this Paul, t'other Paul.
One that can sing.
[00:02:00] Speaker A: Yeah, don't ask me to sing.
[00:02:02] Speaker C: And you love that wind cheater. But I had a standard ballet. I had a whole range of wind cheaters. And you went out and got a whole load of range of wind cheaters. I remember those days. That was. Well. Well, before swinging.
[00:02:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:02:14] Speaker A: It was, um, 29 years ago.
1995.
[00:02:21] Speaker C: You've been counting.
[00:02:22] Speaker A: No, I just worked it out.
[00:02:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:02:26] Speaker C: Because I was thinking deep, dark eighties, but now only 1990. Only 1995. Isn't it weird? Yeah, we think only 1995. That was 29 years ago. Yeah.
[00:02:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:02:39] Speaker A: So the dogs are shaping up. They're wrestling, ready to go. So, yeah, no matter what you do, you just can't control them. They're stubborn as. So what's been happening over the last 29 years?
[00:02:54] Speaker C: Well, if you look at my bio now, there was other stuff, because you do a bio and you look at it and gosh I forgot that. I forgot that. Especially when you've had a sort of a diverse life that I've had.
[00:03:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:10] Speaker C: But I think most of it was filled with things that came on from my djing.
[00:03:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:18] Speaker C: So basically when I was a legendary. The assistant manager took me under his wing and he started teaching me all things pub. Yeah, kegs and server is and how to set up a server and all that, you know, I think he had a software spot for me waiting at you, Brian Walker, if you ever watch this.
But then we had this big refeeded laser and you know, it was over a million dollars and the place was awesome. Huge sound system, you know, flying four ways and lighting and all that sort of thing.
And I think that's when all the licenses got extended for pubs at 02:00 in the morning.
[00:04:00] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:04:02] Speaker C: And so we took on other dj's and I was still the 08:00 for midnight there.
[00:04:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:09] Speaker C: You know, and then I just handed over in a drunken haze.
Then it just. They got new managers in because I ended up being one of the assistant managers. There was two, but then the owner decided to go in a different direction and he got a lot of young people in and they were not particularly enamored with my style of music.
[00:04:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:34] Speaker C: You know, playing, you know, the sort of music I used to play. I'd play a lot of. A lot. It's new and this and that and the other night repeat songs, you know. So when I felt the night needed it and the new young guys I got in that, they felt no, no, the direction we need to go in is doof, doof, doof, doof, doof. Which is what our midnight to 02:00 dj's were.
[00:04:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:56] Speaker C: So um.
And you know, I was doing 60 hours weeks because I was djing and yeah, run the puck, you know, Brian had lifted this stage there and. Yeah, they let me go. Yeah, it was like after eleven years they let me go and it's like.
[00:05:14] Speaker A: I know who they didn't. They get um, a guy named Dwayne coming after you?
[00:05:18] Speaker C: Yes, it was actually Dwayne. And I've got a story about.
[00:05:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:23] Speaker C: So um. Yeah, anyway I went back into doing it at work and all that sort of thing and uh, they actually called me up.
[00:05:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:34] Speaker C: And asked me to come in to the loser in and they said, oh, you know, I can't do the hand signal.
How do you feel about coming back and doing our Thursday nights for us? You know, 08:00 for midnight. You know, the numbers were falling. This is a great thing after eleven years. Yeah, they sacked me and the numbers would die. May have had nothing to do with me, but I'm going to take it on board.
[00:06:01] Speaker B: Yeah, you would. As you would.
[00:06:04] Speaker C: So I did the arrogant thing and I said, uh, yeah, $500 a night or I'm walking.
[00:06:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:10] Speaker C: They went, yeah, no. And I walked. And they were gonna let me down. I said, okay, what? Yeah, I caved. Said, what's the deal? So I went back and I was the 08:00 for midnight dj. I think just Thursday nights, you know, and I had other work.
[00:06:26] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:06:27] Speaker C: And then I remember it was actually Easter.
It was actually Easter. And the rules were they couldn't close at 02:00. That on the Thursday, which is the big night of the Les Riddles, you know, they had to finish it dead on 12:00.
[00:06:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:43] Speaker C: So dips. Dipstick here went to Dwayne and explained how I was gonna formulate the last hour of the night. And I said, look, I'm gonna go beer past midnight, but the cops will be fine with that. We've always done that.
[00:06:55] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:06:56] Speaker C: And I explained what I was gonna play. I'm gonna do this, do this. Some of the dancing. Dancing sort of stuff. And then I'm gonna play some old school rock and roll, get them all singing, and then I'm gonna bring the wave down, and then I'm gonna repeat all the new stuff.
[00:07:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:11] Speaker C: As you do earlier in the night. And we'll finish the night with a sing along. He said, yeah, no rock and roll set.
No, you just keep playing the music you're playing now. Yeah, now I'm a DJ. I've been a DJ in my life. Seriously. Are you gonna let some dick shit tell you what you're gonna play?
[00:07:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:31] Speaker C: It's like, yeah, no worries, Dwayne.
[00:07:33] Speaker B: Because he was like.
[00:07:35] Speaker C: And I played what I wanted to play, and he was so angry at the end of the night, so I quit. Yeah, but that's where you get.
[00:07:45] Speaker A: When you get managers that try and tell the DJ what to play and they've got no idea because the DJ's reading the crowd and they know how the crowd reacts. And. And if people, like, people get to a club now and you go to a DJ.
I struggle to go to clubs now. I can't go to nightclubs and listen to. I just can't do it because there's no. They don't. They've lost the chemistry and the science behind it because you got to like, I know. Because in Rockingham, where we were djing, I dj'd at the Leger, inner Djed at equator room, and I djed it at Zelda's and I djed at liquids.
And if you got to be able to read the crowd and you do, basically what I used to do is divide the crowd up into three. Excuse me, if you need the dogs going. But I would divide the crowd up into three. One. One crowd would be at the bar drinking. One crowd would be in the toilets doing whatever they're doing and the other crowd was dancing. And then you would rotate the music to say that the people on the dance floor would then get off the dance floor, go to the bar and get a drink. The people at the bar would stop drinking. They'd go to the toilets and have a piss, and the people in the toilets would come out and start dancing. And that way the bar was always full and always making money. So if the bars. Making money.
Yeah.
You're in a job and you got to read that crowded.
[00:09:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:06] Speaker C: Mine was slightly different because I saw doing a night as a dj, it just went in waves.
[00:09:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:14] Speaker C: So you would bring the crowd up and you'd bring them down and then you bring them up again. You bring them down and you slowly build that wave up towards the end of night. So at the end of the night, they're walking out the door singing.
[00:09:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:28] Speaker C: You know, whether. Whether the last song you play has come up and see me make me smile or monkeys dangerous believe or whatever, leave them singing.
[00:09:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:38] Speaker C: There was also another. I remember an encounter with, I mean, you know, the leisure in crowd, the Rockingham crowd.
[00:09:43] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:09:44] Speaker A: The old Navy crowd.
[00:09:46] Speaker C: That and the salt of the earth kind of.
[00:09:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:49] Speaker C: And, you know, and I had a guy, checkered shirt, flannelette shirt.
[00:09:55] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:09:57] Speaker C: You know the thing. Please, Amazi.
I ended up becoming a friend with him. Yeah. But I actually said, why do you come here to the loser in you never dance.
[00:10:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:13] Speaker C: Just drink. Why do you come here? Oh, you coming here for the girls? Yeah, yeah.
And I'm playing girls music, so you can come here for the girls.
[00:10:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:28] Speaker A: I had a guy once come up to me and said the same thing. Play some AC DC or something. And he said, I'll play some akodaka. Do it for the Rebs. I played some akataka. I said, have you, you got any AC DC albums at home? He said, yeah, I've got them all. I said, we'll go home and listen to him. I said, you're in a nightclub.
[00:10:47] Speaker C: I did used to make this promise whenever I got the addictions from the crowd and God love my. I did actually get on. Yeah, well, with everything. Even though probably a lot of people thought I was quite arrogant, which was born in my acting. Born of me being quite shy.
[00:11:01] Speaker B: Yeah, I.
[00:11:02] Speaker C: Some strange jobs for a shy person. But I used to say, look, you may come here and you may not like music, but you're enjoying the crowd. But I promise you, you will hear at least one song tonight that you like.
[00:11:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:18] Speaker C: And that was always my promise. You will hear one song tonight that you like.
[00:11:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:22] Speaker C: At least.
[00:11:23] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:11:24] Speaker A: So, hey, do you remember 1995? Obviously, because they had the, um. They had the video.
[00:11:29] Speaker C: Well, I'll stop you there. I'm old. My nap. I don't remember yesterday.
[00:11:33] Speaker A: Oh, I'm gonna remind you some things anyway.
[00:11:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:36] Speaker A: Because I used to have the videos. Used to do the djing with the videos. Was that before or after the upgrade?
[00:11:42] Speaker C: No, that was before the upgrade. I start, when I started, the laser in it was very heavily video dj, VJ based.
[00:11:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, because that's what. That's when I was playing with. When they had the videos there.
[00:11:55] Speaker C: Yeah, it was. No, it's great. We. The guy at the Raffles Hotel, Steve Healman.
[00:12:02] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:03] Speaker C: He used to.
He used to get all the videos, the prime videos, the core videos from the record companies. He dubbed them down onto video cassettes and stole them off.
[00:12:15] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:12:16] Speaker C: Hopefully legally.
[00:12:17] Speaker B: Yeah. But the legs.
[00:12:19] Speaker C: Every three weeks we'd get a new video. Not actually. While I was working on the lights during the day, I'd listen to the videos and.
[00:12:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:25] Speaker C: And we had a huge video collection. It was great.
[00:12:28] Speaker A: Yeah. It's a bit different djing with video cassettes and CDs. But 1995.
I've got the list of the top 50 songs from the ARIA charts. Do you want to know what some of them were?
[00:12:40] Speaker C: I would love to, because it's. I'm going to go. Oh, yeah. And actually, I'll get my phone ready so I can add them to my playlist in the library.
[00:12:49] Speaker A: You can google this. You can google it. So the re charts have got every year. This is 1995, the singles charts. The end of the year, single charts.
Number 50 was. I've got a little something for you by emanate.
I've got a little something for you.
You remember that?
[00:13:09] Speaker C: Oh, yes.
[00:13:12] Speaker A: Then 49 was Chris Isaac. Somebody's crying.
[00:13:16] Speaker C: Yeah, Chris.
[00:13:18] Speaker A: Yeah, he's coming to Perth on Thursday.
48. You'd know this one. Let her cry. Hootie in the blowfish.
[00:13:26] Speaker C: Oh, I see that. A karaoke and blow everybody away. Yeah.
Hard song to say. It's actually a hard song to sing.
[00:13:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:34] Speaker C: But I always think it's funny. It's funny. With who you in the blade fish? Darius. Darius. He sounds like.
Well, he's a.
He's a black guy.
[00:13:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:45] Speaker C: Who wants to sound like a white guy trying to sound like a black guy. Does that make sense?
[00:13:49] Speaker B: Yep, yep, yep.
[00:13:51] Speaker C: But no, he's a good singer, Dad.
[00:13:54] Speaker A: 47 was Michael Jackson. Scream.
Sophie B. Hawkins at 46. As I lay me down, beautiful in my eyes. Joshua Caddison.
[00:14:05] Speaker C: Vaguely remember that.
[00:14:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:08] Speaker A: Corona, baby.
[00:14:09] Speaker B: Baby.
[00:14:10] Speaker C: Oh, yep, yep.
[00:14:11] Speaker A: This one I know you know this one. This was number 43. Herbie.
[00:14:15] Speaker B: Right.
[00:14:15] Speaker A: Type of mood then you had like, Denny Hines. It's alright. 42, weather, wild races. Great Nick came from Coley Manoeuvre. 41.
And when I come around, Green Davis. Number 40.
[00:14:30] Speaker C: Yep. So we'll go to green.
[00:14:32] Speaker A: We'll go through a few more in a bit, but.
[00:14:35] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:14:38] Speaker C: So let me throw the question back on you. What have you been doing since 1995?
[00:14:46] Speaker A: Married, divorced, married, divorced. Travel work, started online, radio station, podcasting, some dj.
[00:15:01] Speaker C: If I ever introduced you to somebody, do I say, oh, this is Paul. His hobby is getting married, sharing the love.
[00:15:11] Speaker A: There's so many, so there's only so much love you can share.
[00:15:15] Speaker C: Actually, that was one of the worst things in Kings Square, which is where I work, as you know. And I see you, I saw you a couple of times. Did you work for Shell or you were in the shell building?
[00:15:29] Speaker A: I was contracted to Shell, yeah, a couple of times.
[00:15:33] Speaker C: And you said hi and I went, yeah, hi. And just like, being old and napping, it's like, yeah, I know that guy. And then 10 seconds later it's Paul Young. And I turned around and you'd be gone.
[00:15:46] Speaker A: Yeah, they never give us long enough for a break.
[00:15:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:52] Speaker C: So I do apologize for that. Yeah, it's all good.
[00:15:58] Speaker A: But like I said, it's like 29 years ago since we were DJ and it's like, ah.
[00:16:03] Speaker C: And then, uh, we both had more.
[00:16:06] Speaker A: Here and more of. A lot of other things as well, but more money.
[00:16:13] Speaker C: I've been making up for that for the last 20 years.
[00:16:15] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, no, it's crazy.
I look at, like, I look at the. My kids now and see what they get up to and I'm like, God, you guys are boring.
[00:16:31] Speaker C: No, that's only what they tell you, Paul.
[00:16:34] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:16:35] Speaker C: Job description, lie to the parents.
[00:16:39] Speaker A: Like, some of the stuff I used to get in trouble for, like, it's crazy.
[00:16:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:48] Speaker C: Yeah, it's been interesting.
[00:16:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember one time. Maybe I shouldn't really say this, but I'm gonna have to. When I was in the. When I was in the navy, we were, we were up in Darwin and we were at this, um, pub and the. They had the, um, strippers on for the sailor. So all the, all the girls up dancing and one of the strippers grabbed one of the sailors up there and put him on stage on his.
Him on a chair, pull down his. Dax and his bright yellow jocks on.
Alright? So. So this stripper's dancing around and carrying on and, um, just. If you're very sensitive to bodily fluids here, people just put your fingers in your ears. But, um, she's gone and dancing. She's squatted down on him, on his lap and when she's come stood up, she left a mark on his bright yellow jock so everyone could see it.
Well, the poor girl got her time of the month right and then on him. So she's run off all embarrassed. And the guy was a bit shy, but he's had a belly full of drunks. Everyone's cheering him on, thinking it's great. And the DJ just kept on going and he was trying to cheer on the crowd even more because they could, he could hear them getting hyped up and so he was cheering them on even more. So she ran off upstairs and in the aftermath, the DJ come down to where everyone was and I said to him, hey, mate, do you know what you're doing? He says, no, not really. So the DJ couldn't come in at short notice to perform for you, not play for you guys and do the strip shows. He said, but I'm just the manager or the assistant manager or something along the lines, so I'm just playing the music. And I said to him, said, look, mate, said, I know the system you're running because it was exactly the same as what leisure in were running the video screens and the video djing and the rest of it. I said, I know what you're running.
I'll do your shows for you. So I've done strip shows before and I've done all this stuff before, so let me do your shows for you. He said, I don't know. I'm not really sure. I don't know if I can do this. He went out at the back and he come back, he said, look, we can't pay you because, you know, you don't work for us, but we can supply your drinks and you can drink as much as you want. I said, yeah, no worries. So me and mate we went upstairs where the DJ box was, and we started. I got everything set up and I'm playing to the music and I'm doing the MC and doing the MC show for the girls and the strippers. And the strippers would come back up because on the mezzanine level where we were, they would get this, where they were getting ready for the shows and bits and pieces.
Well, they're all up there smoking reefers and shit.
So obviously. So they come over to me, do you want to come and join us for a smoke? And I'm like, no, I can't. Like, my bosses and all that down there says wall to wall sailors and navy and officers and the rest of it. And I went, oh, no, look, tell you what. Fuck it.
[00:19:39] Speaker B: I will.
[00:19:40] Speaker A: So I'm upstairs and I've got, like, an endless supply of bourbon and cokes. I'm smoking reefers with the strippers. I was off me, completely off my tip. Meanwhile, downstairs, all the. Everyone else is downstairs partying on like there's no tomorrow. And I'm upstairs with all the strippers.
I was lucky I didn't get drug tested because I would have failed it.
[00:20:07] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:20:10] Speaker C: I remember actually speaking it. You speaking about the strippers. There was one period there of what I was working at the laser in.
[00:20:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:18] Speaker C: And for about six months, my week.
[00:20:23] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:20:24] Speaker C: Basically, on Monday, I'd rock in and I'd do the sign. That was a deal.
[00:20:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:28] Speaker C: I thought I was being paid. So I did the sign out in front of the publish what was going on that week. But on Wednesday, you might remember we had the. The wild Bull competition and the raunchies.
[00:20:39] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:20:40] Speaker C: So that was Wednesday night. So I'd have my gear out. And it was that roll in rollout desk that I had that you could play into all the main system.
Um, so wouldn't say that was that. And then, as you know, Thursday night was the big one at the loser room. Yeah.
But on Friday, the bands didn't want to dj.
[00:21:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:00] Speaker C: So end of the night on Thursday, I just unplugged all these big. All these plugs from my DJ system and just roll it into the back room. Friday I head off.
[00:21:11] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:21:12] Speaker C: Saturday, we had a family karaoke night, and John Blake and I would run that.
[00:21:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:18] Speaker C: And so I roll my gear out on Sunday. The band didn't want to dj, so I'd roll my gear back in.
[00:21:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:24] Speaker C: That was my working week. And I was the highest paid dj in Wa. Seriously, I worked from within. I went Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday.
[00:21:32] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:21:33] Speaker C: And I was earning good money and it was that. It was best six months of my life.
[00:21:38] Speaker B: Yep. You know?
[00:21:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I love it. I love doing it. If I could do it now, I would, so. But, yeah, no one wants to go.
[00:21:45] Speaker B: See.
[00:21:48] Speaker C: Strangely enough, I am voluntarily retired.
[00:21:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:51] Speaker C: My mate Brandon, you might remember. Brandon.
[00:21:55] Speaker A: Sounds familiar.
[00:21:56] Speaker C: Yeah. Brandon Chowdhury, little singaporean guy. He's built up a successful djing and management business and, you know, quite often he'd be trying to get me to come and do weddings, you know, come.
I'm retired. Yeah.
[00:22:12] Speaker A: I wouldn't do weddings. I don't go back to a club. Small, small club.
[00:22:18] Speaker C: I wouldn't do it at all. The reason is I got into the business, probably like yourself, using my own record collection, playing the pub I was at, it was fortunate that I could play the music that I like and everybody at that pub loved it. That was the Jordan Dragon.
[00:22:35] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:22:36] Speaker C: That's why I got into the business. Play the music I liked. Yeah. It became a job and, you know, towards the end, I was playing a lot of music that I didn't particularly like, but I knew, yeah, that the crowd liked it. It was a job, yeah. But it's also a very stressful job. Anybody has not done it and not done it in the environment that we've done. You're talking to the crowd and you're not just beat mixing, you're building the crowd. It's a hell stressful job.
[00:23:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, yeah.
[00:23:08] Speaker C: And I'm seriously too old for that stress. I mean, I earn good money doing what I'm doing.
I'd be happy, Paul, if I never djed again. And it's probably a strange thing to say. So for somebody who loved djing, I just.
[00:23:21] Speaker B: It's so stressful.
[00:23:23] Speaker A: It's so different today as well, because you're using dj controllers rather than turntables and stuff.
[00:23:28] Speaker C: Yeah, that's some of the gear.
[00:23:30] Speaker A: I've got some right in front of me. I've got my whole desk set up right here. I've got the podcast mixing desk. I've got a laptop, I've got screens for the computer that's over there. I got me dj controller in front of me.
[00:23:42] Speaker C: Yeah, but the stress is the building in your mind, where the music's going to go. And then, you know, if you do the little waves thing that I do, and then you get to hear and go, oh, shit, where I was intended to go is not working. Yeah, I need to change track.
I found it very, very stressful, even from the early days.
[00:24:01] Speaker A: Yeah, I've got. I've got a couple of funny stories about setting other dj's up, but before we go, I've got to come before going, continue on with the 1995 39 was entrance set you free?
[00:24:15] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, Scatman.
[00:24:17] Speaker A: Scatman number 38.
[00:24:19] Speaker C: That. That guy actually had a stutter and he used it to his advantage. Yeah, that was all he could do.
[00:24:30] Speaker A: I used to hate that song, but. Oh, Janet Jackson was at 37 with runaway, and then 36 was runaway with real McCoy.
The chick from real McCoy died from COVID related stuff just recently, like a couple years back.
[00:24:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:48] Speaker A: 35 was self esteem. The offspring cotton eye Joe at 34 was cotton on Joe at 34 by the rednecks. Another one that you used to like. Don't stop wiggle, wiggle the out there brothers.
Yeah. 32 was one sweet day. Mariah Carey with boys to men, that's bad. 31 was pure massacre. Silver chair number 30 was Excalibur.
29. You two hold me, thrill me, kiss me, kill me.
28 east 17, say another day. Now we get into some good music. JX 27, you belong to me, yeah.
[00:25:26] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:25:27] Speaker A: Cheryl Crow strong enough at 26, and then we'll stop at 25. We'll go on the rest a bit later on, but shy guy was Diana King at 25.
I can remember.
[00:25:40] Speaker C: You okay?
[00:25:42] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:25:44] Speaker A: You know, we've got some really good ones coming up, but. Yeah, I remember at liquids one night, there was, um, guy named Alex. You remember Alex? You might not have met him.
[00:25:54] Speaker C: Which Alex.
[00:25:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:57] Speaker A: No, because he was. He wanted to dj at what, up in equator room and he wanted to dj up in equator room, and. Yeah, I got scalped to go play at liquids and I said I would go, but I get to pick a dj partner because the place is so big. I wanted something to bounce off.
[00:26:16] Speaker B: They said, yep. Right.
[00:26:17] Speaker A: Oh, um.
Was it Brand? Was it Brandon? You was at liquids as well?
[00:26:23] Speaker C: He was, yeah, Brandon was there for a little while. Little singaporean guy.
[00:26:27] Speaker A: Yeah, he hired me to go there.
[00:26:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:31] Speaker A: And so he took. We took Alex, and then.
[00:26:34] Speaker C: I'm still in contact with Brandon.
[00:26:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:26:37] Speaker A: So. Oh, yeah. Because they promised me a pay rise. I never got it. That's why I left.
But we built that place up so quick.
[00:26:46] Speaker C: Didn't have anything to do with the fact that their sound system was shit.
[00:26:51] Speaker A: I actually am rebuilding it. And their lighting system was the only one who could work their lighting system, so I rebuilt. I rebuilt it all. And.
[00:27:00] Speaker B: Yeah, not.
[00:27:01] Speaker A: Not the audio, but the lights. I've got all the lights working through the computer. Well, Alex, come up and he was djing with me there. And one night we had the crowd pump and it was going right off and he was too busy talking to someone then getting his mix set. He set ready to go. And so he's. I've told him, you know, you're set, jump in quick. He said, I've got nothing ready. So I handed him a, um, handed him a CD back as a backstreet boy CD and.
[00:27:29] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:27:29] Speaker A: And so he thought, oh, great, the backstreet boys, it'll go off. But it was, um. I want it that way. So it's really slow.
So he's gone there, he's pumping. Got the last song that I had queued up playing was going off, the crowds going. He's hit play on his track and the whole clap, the whole club just went quiet. He. Everyone just looked at him and they just scattered and he was left there on his own.
[00:27:56] Speaker B: Bugger.
[00:27:57] Speaker C: Did you ever have this thing before that situation, the go to songs?
[00:28:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:04] Speaker C: So you would, you'd have a, you'd have a little list in your head of old school songs that are just. The crowds just gonna go.
[00:28:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:14] Speaker C: Or some of, some of the newer stuff. And the crowds just gonna go.
[00:28:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:17] Speaker C: Even though you played it now before.
[00:28:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:19] Speaker C: And, you know, and you suddenly get that, oh, I fucked up here.
[00:28:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:22] Speaker C: Inspect that on and go to the go to song.
[00:28:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:25] Speaker C: Stick it on and win them back again.
[00:28:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:28] Speaker A: Because back in the day.
Back in the day you could do things like the YMCA and shit like that and people would just get up and go crazy to the YMCA and stuff.
[00:28:36] Speaker B: But.
[00:28:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I can't see them doing that in a club anymore.
Not the ones anyway.
[00:28:44] Speaker C: Although sometimes I've got a couple of stories in there, but I do sometimes like the modern, the background kind of dj, which is seeing a lot in the small bars. Yeah, some. You know, I was at market grounds, you know, markets and I don't know what song this guy went from, but he ended up going to Elo's mister Blue sky and the mix was just awesome. And I just went up to him. I mean, it's not something I would do.
[00:29:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:12] Speaker C: But I'm like, how the fuck did you mix into.
Yeah. So, yeah, some, some of the dj's are really, really good at the whole beat me. You know what I used to call them? Beat mixing and just making one long song.
[00:29:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:29] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:29:30] Speaker B: Still, it's easy.
[00:29:31] Speaker A: It's easier now. It's easier now to do it than what it is back then.
[00:29:35] Speaker C: Yeah, I know.
The best you can have is a beat light.
[00:29:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:40] Speaker C: You know, but now you've got something that works. I've seen you've got something that works like auto tune. So the computer actually, Max matches the beats.
[00:29:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:50] Speaker A: You can sync them.
[00:29:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:51] Speaker A: But, um. And then what they do now, they, they drop the. They drop the bass out of one of the tracks and bring the next one in and bring the bass up so that you don't actually hear the. If the beat. If the bass.
[00:30:05] Speaker C: You can split the tracks.
[00:30:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:07] Speaker A: Well, they just do it with their controllers. They like the treble base and mid range controls. They just drop the base right out.
[00:30:12] Speaker C: But you can also say they've got a set of pots for each channel. So it's got its own treble mid base.
[00:30:22] Speaker A: You just drop it out and then you mix it across. But, but you also can get in the software, depending what software you got, you can get what they call stems.
So you track. You can get your track and divide it into four stems. So you can just. If you want, just play the vocal track and you can play the vocal track and drop the vocal track out of another song.
[00:30:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:43] Speaker C: Not split the tracks of the track.
[00:30:46] Speaker B: Yeah. And like.
[00:30:47] Speaker A: And the computer will do all that way out and you can just.
[00:30:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:50] Speaker A: So you can put a, say, Kim Khan's over a Taylor Swift song or something.
Then you'd have King Khan's vocals and Taylor Swift's music.
[00:30:59] Speaker C: Although in my own with it, with a point of pride, I have managed to beat mix videos.
[00:31:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:31:08] Speaker C: Occasionally. Occasionally. It's worked well.
[00:31:12] Speaker A: We used have to do it on Thursday night. Sound at the, um, liquid leisure in.
[00:31:18] Speaker B: What do they call.
[00:31:19] Speaker A: What do they call it now?
Um, no, they changed the Bali bar or something.
[00:31:27] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:31:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:28] Speaker C: Yeah.
Yeah. Well, it looks lovely.
[00:31:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:38] Speaker A: But they don't use it. No, no one goes, I'm going there in a couple of weeks to go see 360 perform. I'm gonna write a review for the website.
Gotta go see 360 play. But they don't use it. They've got a full decked out club and restaurant. What layout? They've got the whole works and jerks. They've got a sound system that's, you know, as good as any others.
Lights and everything. And they don't use it. You never.
[00:32:06] Speaker C: That's the. The, um.
That's the thing I take on board. Within three months of me quitting, they had all that. It was before it was impulse, but they still. They had that system lighting the stage and everything.
[00:32:20] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:32:20] Speaker C: They had another refit since. But within three months of me quitting. It's gone to what it is now. They only open for, as far as I know, for Easter Thursday, Christmas Eve, special events, that kind of thing. The old days of it being open Wednesday through Sunday. That finished three months after I finished.
[00:32:38] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:32:39] Speaker C: And as I said earlier, it may have had nothing to do with me, it may have just been the Lizarians time, but I'm going to take on board with it. You know what, I left and three months after, eleven years and three months later, the place is pretty much shut down.
[00:32:52] Speaker A: Yeah, well, yeah, I reckon. I reckon you can take that because I'm gonna take the same for the liquids.
[00:33:00] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:33:01] Speaker A: Because when we went there, they were having 450 people through the door a night.
[00:33:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:06] Speaker A: And then within eight weeks it was full to capacity.
[00:33:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:11] Speaker A: And then after I walk, after I left, because they kept saying I was gonna. Because we were. When I went in there, we were getting really shit money.
And when I left, I was doing 90% of the djing.
And I know you, I know you know Brandon because he was the one who took me there and got me there, that the deal was that we'd start the night, he'd go from twelve to two or whatever it was, and then we'd have a two hour break and then we'd finish the night.
Yeah, but he'd never finish, get to finish. He set, because he would come in and play music that no one wanted to hear and that all clear off, so we'd have to come back in and rebuild the crowd, crowd up again and so, yeah, when, you know, I left because we were getting paid really shit money and, you know, it was really, really bad. And when I said, you know, when am I gonna get me pay rise? He said, if we build up the crowd, we'd get a pay rise and we've done that.
And all the other. All the people like Brandon, they all got their pay rise and the guys that were doing the work didn't, so I walked and then it wasn't long after that that crumbled again.
No.
[00:34:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:31] Speaker C: Just a building that somebody's waiting to knock over or. Yeah, it's crazy money.
[00:34:35] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:34:36] Speaker A: I got into trouble there one night because I swore on the microphone, but it was really early in the night, there was hardly anyone there. Right. So we're in a. In a club where everyone's drunk. It's a nightclub, so everyone's getting on, getting drunk. And I played, I was playing like songs like JX and some really fast dance tracks and as you do like I like to dance and muck around. When I'm in the dj box, I don't sit there just going, oh, I get into the music and play around and sing and dance and.
[00:35:07] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:35:08] Speaker A: And I just got the microphone and said, oh, guys, you're fucking wearing me out. And someone actually complained that I swore and.
[00:35:18] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:35:20] Speaker A: I got a message from Peter Murko, who was the owner at the time, saying, um, no swearing.
[00:35:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:29] Speaker C: Having said that, there was a long period there when Brian Walker was the assistant manager of Elizabeth. There were songs always not allowed to play.
[00:35:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:37] Speaker C: I wasn't, I was never allowed to play. Am I ever gonna see your face again?
[00:35:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:42] Speaker C: Because people swore, no way. Get back off.
[00:35:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:45] Speaker C: And towards the end. Yeah, it's like, yeah. And also the punters and I remember Steve Pringle, he was the head security guy before the refute. But you know, if a bloke came in with his shirt untucked, ducky shirt in.
[00:36:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:36:02] Speaker C: It's like, really? You couldn't get away with it nowadays.
[00:36:05] Speaker A: No, because we used to go out and you couldn't go out. The guys couldn't get into a club unless they had a collared shirt, like you said, tucked in.
And shoes, dress shoes. You couldn't go in with sneakers or anything like that now. Now you go in, you've got pluggers on, pair of shorts and a bing tang t shirt.
And people think that's Barley and Rockingham.
[00:36:28] Speaker C: That was actually the weirdest thing with this, the last trip I just had.
[00:36:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:34] Speaker C: So went to Bali and then moved. Went on to Thailand. My first time in Thailand, my mate's been trying to get me there for years and ended up on a beach, in a beach place called Pattaya.
But in Bali you're just used to wearing your thongs. Yeah, I've got a really nice expensive set of orthopedic thongs. They're okay, but at the end of the day they're thongs.
[00:36:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:36:59] Speaker C: Bali's long is everywhere.
[00:37:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:01] Speaker C: And I packed one pair of shoes and that was for flying.
[00:37:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:07] Speaker C: I wear shoes when I fly in long pants. And I found out in Thailand nobody goes out at nighttime in thongs. Everybody wears, it seems to be a thing in Thailand, even in a beach suburb 2 hours from the city.
[00:37:22] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:37:22] Speaker C: Everybody wears their vans or their sneakers or whatever and it's like, okay. And I've only bought one, one pair of shoes.
[00:37:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:29] Speaker A: Hey, I just gotta, um, I gotta be really rude.
I'm gonna leave. Leave the camera for a second.
I've gotta go get a drink.
[00:37:40] Speaker C: I thought you go off for a number two. Do you want to do a song and dance or you're just gonna edit this out?
[00:37:47] Speaker A: No. Yeah, you can do a song and dance, right?
[00:37:51] Speaker C: No, actually, I might grab another soft drink.
[00:37:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:55] Speaker A: All right, so I'll pause it. We'll pause it and we'll come back. Do you know, I just order something. I should have just brought up a screen. I should have just gone, done this.
We'll be right back.
And then done that. But no, now I've got to edit it all together and increase my workload.
[00:38:11] Speaker C: Can you do that again?
[00:38:13] Speaker A: You're listening to KBFY FM, 107.9. You're listening to a pair of old jocks with Paul and Alan.
[00:38:22] Speaker C: Yeah, we all had dj voices, didn't we?
[00:38:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I got told. Because I doubled in a bit, a little bit of radio. I got told my voice wasn't resident resonant enough.
[00:38:34] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:38:35] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:38:35] Speaker A: Because that was back in the day when I am rocked.
[00:38:38] Speaker C: Yeah, I was actually.
I was the first person on air on a Rockingham radio station.
[00:38:47] Speaker A: 101.7.
[00:38:49] Speaker C: It was 96.4 at the time, but, yeah, 101.7 Sound FM.
The, um. The actual opening. And they did the whole, uh, ABC so sort of thing. So we made a tape and it was, uh. It was the national anthem.
[00:39:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:39:07] Speaker C: Followed by a speech from the mayor, followed by some government minister, followed by this, and followed by descriptions of what the radio is all about and how hard it was to get the radio station up and running. But the first live dj on air in Rockingham on 96.4 FM.
[00:39:22] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:39:23] Speaker C: Yours truly.
[00:39:24] Speaker A: What was the song? First song you played?
[00:39:27] Speaker C: Um, I think it was righteous brothers.
[00:39:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:39:30] Speaker A: I see you played all people music.
[00:39:31] Speaker C: You've lost that. You've lost that loving feeling. No, I tried to do a bit of a mix.
[00:39:35] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:39:36] Speaker A: I had, um. When it was 101.7, I had a, um. A show on there. It was a psychic show.
And I used to have this psychic come in. Her name was Karen and she was really good. And she. We got a bit of a following up. And when. When they get all the.
What do they call it?
Forgetting the name of it now.
They get all the numbers come in and they tell you how well you've been performing and things like that.
[00:40:05] Speaker B: We actually.
[00:40:07] Speaker A: Yeah, but there's a special name for it. There's a special survey. Survey. The survey. When the surveys come in and we actually polled better than one of the commercial stations who had a psychic show on.
[00:40:21] Speaker B: We were.
[00:40:21] Speaker A: And we were like the one I said, 101.7 sound effect in the day.
[00:40:26] Speaker C: Yeah, probably a good idea I wasn't on the show then.
[00:40:30] Speaker A: Well, they claim the phone.
[00:40:32] Speaker C: You say you're a psychic. Yes, I am. No, you're not.
[00:40:35] Speaker A: But, yeah, she had a good following. She had a good few heaps of people followed her. But we used to go on after Samantha Jolly.
[00:40:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:43] Speaker A: And Samantha Jolie's now does the news for channel one, of the. Channel ten or something, I think. Well, last time I saw she was.
[00:40:51] Speaker C: That's where people start community radios. Same with a lot of actors, you know.
[00:40:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:57] Speaker C: Because I'm into my community theater.
[00:41:00] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:41:01] Speaker C: I am. I am an actor. But in community theater, you get all these whopper.
[00:41:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:09] Speaker C: Kids and people who want to make it big. And, you know, there's a lot of people I've acted with. You see them on tv, they do commercials and all that. It's the same with seriously radio jobs. A lot of them start in community radio.
[00:41:24] Speaker B: Yes.
Yep.
[00:41:26] Speaker A: I did a tv commercial for RAC.
There was really.
[00:41:30] Speaker C: I didn't see.
[00:41:31] Speaker A: Yes, it was, um, before.
When was that? That would have been early. Two thousands.
I've been trying to get a.
Yeah, yeah.
There's a website called Star now as well. You can go on Star now and people advertising factors all the time.
[00:41:56] Speaker C: Yeah, it's crazy, you know, you don't have to be good looking, you just have to be the look they want.
[00:42:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:42:05] Speaker C: Anyway, from 99, they want to do a pharmacy advert with. With an old bastard going in with a walking frame to buy some drugs. I'm your man.
[00:42:14] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:42:16] Speaker A: Anyway, let's go back to 95. Number 24 was Meryl Bainbridge under the water.
[00:42:22] Speaker C: Oh, yes. Good song.
[00:42:23] Speaker A: Yeah, she had that one mouth as well.
Peter Andre, mysterious girl.
Here comes the hot steppers at 22.
[00:42:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep.
[00:42:36] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:42:36] Speaker A: Remember Sukiyaki 04:00 p.m. Hit the.
[00:42:41] Speaker C: Oh, yes. And it was the. Yeah, they did an english version of it.
[00:42:46] Speaker A: Well, hold on. Let's see, let's see, let's see if you can hear it.
Oh, it's that.
[00:42:56] Speaker C: It's a lot better in the original Japanese.
[00:42:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:42:58] Speaker C: I don't understand.
[00:43:00] Speaker A: Well, number 20 was Alanis Morris. You ought to know.
[00:43:04] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:43:05] Speaker A: Silver chair tomorrow at number 19.
[00:43:08] Speaker B: Oh, great song.
[00:43:10] Speaker A: Fantasy, Mariah Carey at 18.
This one I thought. This one, I thought this song come out before 95, but. Total eclipse of the heart. Nicci French. Oh, no, I'm thinking of Bonnie Tyler's version.
[00:43:25] Speaker C: You're thinking Bonnie Tyler? Yeah, that was the dance version. So if you want to stick it on, have a listen to it.
[00:43:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:43:31] Speaker A: This is dance version. Oh, no, the video is not available. No longer available.
[00:43:36] Speaker B: Come.
[00:43:37] Speaker A: Can't watch it. Come watch the video. Anyway, number 16 was waterfalls by TLC.
[00:43:46] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:43:47] Speaker A: And another one of your favorite songs at 15 was Alice. Who the fuck is Alice? Steppers.
[00:43:53] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. Okay, let's not go there.
[00:43:56] Speaker A: Here's Johnny Hocus pocus at 14.
Boom, boom, boom. The out there brothers was 13, insensitive Joe Jan Arden at twelve.
[00:44:08] Speaker C: Don't remember that one.
[00:44:09] Speaker A: No. And think twice by selenium Dion was at number eleven.
And we'll do the top ten in a minute.
I just got it. I can only do it a little bit at a time. I don't want you having a heart attack getting all excited about this music.
[00:44:27] Speaker C: Add to library. Add to library. Did you, did you ever have the experience? It's a. It's a Rockingham thing.
[00:44:35] Speaker B: So.
[00:44:36] Speaker C: And there were limited venues.
[00:44:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:38] Speaker C: But the being a big fish in a small pond.
Um, no, I was an example.
One of my girlfriends wouldn't say annoyed, that's too hard a word. But she used to like, I'd go walking through Rockingham City. Yeah, it was a lot small, a lot fucking smaller.
[00:45:02] Speaker A: They used to have advantage.
[00:45:04] Speaker C: I would say hi. Yeah, hello. Yeah, advantage. And, yeah, hi. I'm saying hi. And Mike, I remember my girlfriend saying, is there anybody you don't know?
[00:45:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:45:14] Speaker C: And that was the thing. Being a big fish in a very, very small pond. But I'll tell you what, when I stopped djing and I moved on to do other things, it was actually nice being a nobody.
[00:45:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:45:26] Speaker C: I mean, I loved. I loved the fact that everybody knew me and everybody said hi and all that. It was brilliant and big. I get how celebrities, real celebrities, can get pissed off. It's like when I finally stopped djing and moved on and moved out of Rockingham, it was so nice. Nobody knew me. I could walk through a shopping center and nobody knew me.
[00:45:48] Speaker A: No, I was the most famous person you never knew.
Been on tv, been on radio.
I've had kids, you know, conceived because of me.
And same with you, you'd have kids conceived because you play good music. And two strangers in the night would be going home outside the Leisure Inn after.
[00:46:14] Speaker C: This conversation is going to a disturbing level, Paul.
[00:46:17] Speaker A: It's Rockingham. People going home, taking strangers home.
[00:46:21] Speaker C: And I do remember I was in Bali probably about six or seven years ago. And I do remember. I hear it. Hey, DJ Al. It was like, oh, that's so nice. After all these years, somebody recognizes me.
[00:46:39] Speaker A: Yeah, but the one of the.
At the, um, leisure, not leisure, liquids one night, I had, um, a carton of Stoli I had to give away.
Yeah, the condition was like the winner would have to come back and collect it the next day or whatever. But I'm trying to think of, um.
Yeah, I'm like, it's got to try and work out what. What to do to give it away. So, um, I just said, hey, guys, if you've got an idea for any competitions or anything on the mouse it on the mic said, if you got any ideas for competitions or anything, got a carton style, easy giveaway, let me know what. What we can do. And I had this girl come up to me, I kid you not, before I could even close the microphone. She's, um, turned out, I'll let you take me out the back.
[00:47:25] Speaker B: And.
[00:47:28] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[00:47:29] Speaker A: I said no, obviously she didn't win. But, um.
[00:47:34] Speaker C: Did you realize I'm not inviting my daughter to listen to this podcast?
[00:47:38] Speaker A: That's why I said.
But, um. So anyway, but, yeah, it was crazy. It was, um. And what I ended up doing was the first person that could give. Bring to the DJ box a wet pair of underwear.
And, yeah, there was a guy and a girl. They both got the exact same time, each with their underwear soaking wet.
I don't, I don't know whether. How they got.
[00:48:04] Speaker B: Huh.
[00:48:05] Speaker C: I thought I was a bad man. But seriously, Paul, keep talking. So they got my early life.
[00:48:11] Speaker A: They got half, half a carton each.
[00:48:13] Speaker B: So.
[00:48:14] Speaker A: So maybe they got together and some, you know, some kid running around. It was created because of the music we were playing.
[00:48:23] Speaker C: Well, um, it. It was fun.
[00:48:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:48:29] Speaker C: You could get away with a lot.
[00:48:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:48:32] Speaker A: Don't know if you could do it now, but now it's the responsible service of alcohol and things like that.
[00:48:41] Speaker C: I don't know, there'd be ways and means. But as I said, I've spent the last 30 years making up for the horrible person I was for the first 30 years of my life.
[00:48:53] Speaker A: I'm still doing. I'm still doing it. I'm still enjoying it.
[00:48:58] Speaker C: I'm committed to being. To being the best. That sounds so bloody spiritual. I'm committed to being the best person I can now. I'm committed to treating people the way I would like to be treated. And I'm really, really hard on myself and I. And it is an artifact of my early life, being in bands and being such a sleaze bag and being in, you know, being a DJ and being able to get away with a lot.
[00:49:27] Speaker A: Well, you can do that now you get. Now you get older, you can do it again.
[00:49:31] Speaker C: It's expected from old people only in Thailand.
[00:49:35] Speaker A: No, you people. Old people get away with so much shit nowadays. Hey, I've told everyone, and I tell everyone, once you lose dignity, once you get rid of dignity, there's no more stress, no more pressure in the world.
Anything could happen. It won't worry because you don't care.
I could be walking along and if I had no dignity, I've still got a little bit. So I won't do this, but say I had no dignity and I could be walking to the bus stop and I could just wet my pants and I've got no dignity, so it doesn't matter.
[00:50:07] Speaker C: I wouldn't go as far as that. But you are right. Being at our stage of life, it is a case of, well, I'm an adult. I'm not answerable to anybody.
[00:50:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:50:23] Speaker C: Apart from my daughter.
And.
And I'm a good person. I feel I'm a good person. I've worked very, very hard on that. But, yeah, yeah, you don't worry about the small shit. You don't worry about being embarrassed or doing something embarrassing. This is why it's such a great, fun time in Thailand. I didn't get into the culture of, you know, paying for a young bar girl to spend the night. I didn't get into that culture. But I liked the bar hopping. But I also. I'd go to a bar and I'd just do stupid things and go dancing in the street. At this stage in my life, it's like, I don't care. Embarrassment is not a thing.
[00:51:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:51:04] Speaker C: I'm not a teenager, you know, is everybody looking at me? It's like, well, I don't care if everybody looks at me.
[00:51:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:51:09] Speaker C: I think that was the point you were trying to make. Not so much the lack of dignity, but the lack of anything I do. I'm an old fuck.
[00:51:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:51:18] Speaker A: The older you get, the more, you know, the more you can get away with. So.
[00:51:21] Speaker C: So the more the mind gets focused.
[00:51:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:51:24] Speaker A: So what's your go to song for karaoke.
[00:51:30] Speaker C: Like, nicole play? Yeah, I can do Chris Martin.
[00:51:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:51:37] Speaker C: Especially when my daughter's there, because we do harmonies and we do. We ring, the changes on the songs. So we, both of us do Coldplay very well, I think. I do coldplay very, very well.
I.
I also like a little bit of soul and, you know, I like doing letter cry, which is quite a soulful song.
But, yeah. The moment I would. I would say my go to is Coldplay.
[00:52:02] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:52:02] Speaker C: Mainly because I can hit what Chris Martin does.
[00:52:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:52:07] Speaker C: And I like Coldplay a lot. I know that's very twee, but, yeah, I mean, I went and saw him and with. With my daughter and they are a great band, but that's my go to.
[00:52:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:52:19] Speaker C: What's your go to for karaoke?
[00:52:21] Speaker A: I don't do it.
[00:52:23] Speaker C: Yeah, I know, because you can't see.
[00:52:24] Speaker B: No.
[00:52:28] Speaker C: I could have told you that, but I thought I'd ask the question.
[00:52:33] Speaker A: Can't do it. Yeah.
[00:52:34] Speaker B: So.
[00:52:35] Speaker A: But I. I can't do it because, like, if I could get up and I think that everyone can sing, they've just got to find the right song that they can sing.
[00:52:44] Speaker B: But everyone.
[00:52:45] Speaker A: Everyone can. Has got a song they can sing, but I just haven't found one yet.
[00:52:49] Speaker C: But I will disagree with you. There are people who would genuinely take this.
[00:52:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:52:56] Speaker C: I don't understand it. But they just cannot pick tones well.
[00:52:59] Speaker A: Enough to be able to find one song that's got.
[00:53:03] Speaker C: I don't care.
[00:53:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:04] Speaker C: I'm not one of those goes to karaoke and somebody gets up and they are toned down and they're shy and they're pissed and all that could be me. I still enjoy it because my belief is, and, you know, this is something you probably see on the Internet anyway, sing like nobody can hear you and dance like nobody can hear you.
[00:53:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:23] Speaker C: And if some buggers up there murdering a song.
[00:53:27] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:53:28] Speaker C: I care. Are they having a good time singing? Because singing is fun.
[00:53:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:53:33] Speaker C: Even if you're bad at it.
[00:53:34] Speaker B: Yeah. It's fun. Yep.
[00:53:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:53:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:38] Speaker A: Anyway, let's get the last of the 1995 songs out. Get them done.
[00:53:43] Speaker C: Are you mad at me for telling you that you can't sing?
[00:53:45] Speaker A: No, no, I know, I know I can't sing.
[00:53:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:49] Speaker A: No, the dogs know it, too. They tell it, they go off. What's up? Anyway, Michael Jackson, you were not alone. Was it number ten?
[00:53:58] Speaker C: Take that, Jackson's.
[00:54:01] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:54:02] Speaker A: Anyway, take that back for good. Was number nine.
Um, CDB. Let's groove. Was number eight.
Um. Zombie. The cranberries are number seven.
Brian. Brian Adams. Have you ever really loved at number six?
[00:54:19] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:54:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
Top five.
[00:54:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:54:25] Speaker A: Another night. Real McCoy.
[00:54:28] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:54:29] Speaker A: Mouth Merrill. Bainbridge. So she's had two. Real McCoy's. Had two. Then you had kiss from a rose by Seal.
Do you reckon you could have a stab at the top two?
[00:54:45] Speaker C: Trying to think. Because the songs that you relate, it's not a great year for DJ's. Is it?
[00:54:52] Speaker A: This is the Aria top 50. So Aria charts totally suck. But do you remember DJ Bobo?
[00:55:00] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm trying to think of the song.
[00:55:01] Speaker A: Yeah, it wasn't a dj boat. None of them are DJ Bobo.
DJ Bobo had set you.
No, no, that's, um, someone else. That was after 95.
That was, um, DJ Bobo had set you free.
Was that entrance at your free?
But number two was staying alive for entrance.
[00:55:29] Speaker C: It was. And they quickly released three sample tracks after that. So there was a couple of Rod Stewart ones. Great to dance to. Yeah, absolutely great to dance. I've actually got that on my playlist.
[00:55:43] Speaker A: And number one was gangsters paradise by Coolio.
[00:55:48] Speaker C: Great artist.
And you try to describe to people like our age.
You know, we talked earlier today how it's annoying that people get locked into the music of their late teens and that's all they listen to for the rest of their life.
[00:56:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:56:08] Speaker C: And a lot of the things that people who are our age are that rap crap or whatever they want called it.
And it's like, you really need to listen to guys like Coolio.
[00:56:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:56:18] Speaker C: You know, and just. It's great music.
[00:56:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:56:22] Speaker C: And it is music, you know, I liked his one.
He released about six months after that. No, it was about a year after that. I'll see you when you get there.
[00:56:33] Speaker B: Yeah, loved that.
[00:56:34] Speaker C: But, yeah, Coolio, great artist.
[00:56:37] Speaker A: He released a song just after his death with an Aussie rapper named Cardia.
[00:56:46] Speaker C: And we meant we.
[00:56:49] Speaker A: I got to interview her on pop rock radio.
[00:56:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:56:53] Speaker A: Just after Cordio's death because we had. We spoke about the song they released.
[00:56:58] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:56:59] Speaker A: And it was amazing. He was in a studio in Melbourne, over. Yeah, Melbourne, I think was in Melbourne. Yeah, in the studio in Melbourne. And he heard her singing in another studio. She was recording something else and he needed a track and someone he had. It was missing a bit to a song that he needed. And so he called her in and bang, they got it.
[00:57:21] Speaker B: They did it.
[00:57:22] Speaker A: Recorded the song and did it right there and then.
[00:57:25] Speaker C: That's how shit like that happens.
Actually. You've sent me off on another tangent.
[00:57:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:57:34] Speaker C: 1955 hill top, hoods. Oh, um. You like the hilltop woods?
[00:57:40] Speaker B: Nah, nah, nah, nah.
[00:57:44] Speaker A: I just don't. Don't get to listen to them.
[00:57:47] Speaker C: Well, you've heard of the artist Montane?
[00:57:49] Speaker B: Who?
[00:57:51] Speaker C: Montaigne.
[00:57:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Look her up. Australia.
[00:57:54] Speaker C: Very distinctive voice. My daughter. My daughter sounds exactly like her.
[00:57:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:58:00] Speaker C: We actually have mini concerts in the car, you know, and. Yeah, I can sing, but my daughter can sing.
[00:58:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:58:09] Speaker C: Voice of an age and she sounds exactly like Montaigne.
[00:58:12] Speaker B: Yep. Ah, cool.
[00:58:14] Speaker C: I like doing karaoke with my daughter.
[00:58:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:58:18] Speaker A: Alrighty. So what was that your tangent you were on?
[00:58:23] Speaker C: Yeah, it was, I think.
[00:58:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:58:26] Speaker C: Oh, no. Um, no, but back to Coolio. Um, I think part of the reason that I liked him was he, he had a social conscience, a social voice. Songs were things that addressed.
[00:58:39] Speaker B: Yeah, shit, yeah.
[00:58:40] Speaker C: Was going on, you know, and. Yeah.
[00:58:42] Speaker A: Anyway, anyway, we're gonna have to wrap it up, wind it up tonight because I've got to get up early in.
[00:58:47] Speaker C: The morning for work and I've got to go back to work after four or five weeks. That's gonna be jarring.
[00:58:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:58:56] Speaker A: Well, hopefully next Monday I'll have everything set up so it's live streaming as.
[00:59:00] Speaker C: Well, so we'll be able to tell.
[00:59:02] Speaker A: Everyone to tune in.
[00:59:05] Speaker C: Well, I'm actually just thinking with some of the things like, oh, there's all these little spaces that this happened and this happened and this happened. Yeah. Lots to talk about. Hopefully if people watch this, they go, yeah, it's interesting if they don't. Yeah, it is what it is. You and I had a chat.
[00:59:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:59:22] Speaker A: But we're gonna. We've got heaps more to talk about because, like, I want to talk about things like getting stage fright and different places where we've djed, because I've DJ'd all around Australia, DJ'd in Cannes or DJ'd in South Australia and talk about the music and, you know, how it affects us and how we've, how life's evolved since 29 years ago.
[00:59:41] Speaker C: Sounds like.
[00:59:43] Speaker A: All right, I'll see you next Monday night.
[00:59:45] Speaker C: All right, Paul, no worries. Talk to you soon. Yep.