1996 Was a it a good yearfor DJ's?

[00:00:13] Speaker A: Hey, everyone. Welcome to another episode of a pair of old jocks. That's us, Alan and me. Or myself. [00:00:19] Speaker B: Paul. [00:00:19] Speaker A: How is going? Hope you're all doing well. How you going, Al? [00:00:24] Speaker C: Ah, you know, surviving. [00:00:26] Speaker B: Surviving. [00:00:26] Speaker C: It's fun being old. [00:00:28] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. I got some good news today. I'm not going to tell anyone because it's personal news, but it's good news all about, so it's all good for me. [00:00:39] Speaker C: We actually had really bad news about my granddad. [00:00:42] Speaker A: Oh, no. What happened? [00:00:46] Speaker C: Well, we found out he's got a really bad addiction. He's finally owned up, come out of the closet for the families. He's. Yeah, he's been suffering from a really bad addiction for the last few years. It was quite sad. We were thinking about having an intervention, but he brought it to us and he said, yeah, he's. Yeah, for the last five years, he's been addicted to Viagra. [00:01:14] Speaker A: I don't know. He should take you seriously. Or laugh. I'm waiting for a punchline. [00:01:21] Speaker C: Well, Nana took it hardest of all. [00:01:26] Speaker B: She would have. [00:01:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:01:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:30] Speaker A: There you go. I knew there was a punchline in there somewhere. [00:01:34] Speaker C: So am I doing an aria chart this week? Is it my turn or. [00:01:40] Speaker A: Um, yeah. Have you got. Got them up? [00:01:43] Speaker C: Oh, I'm thinking 1996. [00:01:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Let's go. 99. Six. [00:01:47] Speaker C: Got a. Got a challenge for you. If you know the song, you sing it. You sing a couple of bars. [00:01:54] Speaker A: I don't know. Yeah, go for it. [00:01:57] Speaker C: Oh, you want to start now? [00:01:59] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, if you want. [00:01:59] Speaker A: You might want. Yeah, well, now we'll do it in a bit. [00:02:02] Speaker B: Yeah, all right. [00:02:02] Speaker A: Okay, we'll do it a bit. [00:02:03] Speaker C: Yeah, we'll do it. [00:02:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:05] Speaker C: But, um, since last week, I've been thinking little bit. [00:02:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:10] Speaker C: I should do a little bit of input. I've been thinking about the weird things in music, and when I listen to a song sometimes how I think of the process that goes into it and how strange it is. [00:02:25] Speaker B: Yeah. And. [00:02:27] Speaker C: And one song that always comes up, and it's on my playlist. It's in my library. It's a song called Eleanor. Do you know it? From the seventies. [00:02:36] Speaker A: Oh, Eleanor Rigby. [00:02:40] Speaker C: I think you're swell. [00:02:42] Speaker B: No. What? [00:02:48] Speaker C: Big. Oh, well, it makes no point if you don't know the song. [00:02:51] Speaker A: No, it doesn't matter. Oh, are you there? You locked up? I think he's locked up. [00:03:00] Speaker B: Oh, that. [00:03:01] Speaker A: He looks like one of them clowns from the circus. Well, you locked up that you locked up for the minute. We didn't. We didn't get any of what you were just saying. [00:03:08] Speaker C: Oh, sorry. It's from a. From a band called the Turtles. And it was. It was late 60 turtles. Yes, 68. And it always fascinates me because in the chorus, it's. They'd say, you're my pride and joy, etc. And having been part of the songwriting process, it's. Writing lyrics is really, really hard. [00:03:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:37] Speaker C: And I could. Every time the song comes on on my playlist, I can just imagine these guys, late sixties, you know, they've had a chill, they've had a few urbans and all that, and they've sat down, they've gone, why don't we write a song? But we have to include the word etcetera. I mean, who comes up with the idea? Who puts that in a song lyric? But they managed to do it, so look it up, guys. [00:04:00] Speaker B: Yeah. What? [00:04:01] Speaker A: Well, if you see. If you see me holding my nose, I'm gonna run your nose or anything. It's just I've got a fly that's annoying me and I'm spraying the mortinary. I'm trying to kill this flying. And it's, um. I almost had a sneeze and. [00:04:15] Speaker C: Farting. But no, I've got this for never a student. [00:04:20] Speaker B: Yeah, we. [00:04:22] Speaker A: I've done a few interviews on pop rock radio, and I talked to a. Like, songwriters and things like that, and I asked them a question just recently. It's a fresh one that's come to mind. And it's same about the. What you're saying about the lyrics with it, etcetera. I keep asking people, do they. When they write songs, they come. People get the ideas all different places. I said, but do you ever sit in the shower or on the toilet and you just sing something stupid? Might be about an old sock or it could be about, you know, shampoo and conditioner, and turns that into a new song. Into a song. I wonder how many songs have been like that. [00:05:01] Speaker C: I think people do have ideas. People have. I mean, sometimes tunes have come to be in my sleep because I'm not really an instrument player. I play guitar a tiny, tiny bit. You know, it's nice to have a phone and recording device and hum the tune that came to you in your sleep. What I found is, I'll actually probably go off on a couple of tangents here, but most songwriters, they come up with a tune first. [00:05:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:34] Speaker C: And then they sit down and they scratch their head on what lyrics to put to that tune. And that's actually the easiest way to write a song. Come up with the tune first and then put the lyrics down. But then you get guys like Elton John, and he used to collaborate with Bernie Taulton, and Bernie Taulton will come up with these great lyrics, throw the lyrics at Elton. And Elton would write a tune to the lyrics. [00:05:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:00] Speaker C: And so the phrasing in Elton John songs is really quite awkward because he squeezes words, he stretches words, because the words were written first. And for all the karaoke singers out there, Elton John songs are really hard to sing because of that. Because the lyrics got written first. I want to know was added, like. [00:06:23] Speaker A: His song Yellow Brick Road. Right. And he's sitting on his piano and Bernie Taupins again, goodbye, yellow Brick road. I want to know if. If he originally, like, if he's had a few chardonnays, he's sitting there and he's having a few drinks and he's still sitting down to write a song. And he started going, hello, yellow prick toad and then gone to the yellow brick road. [00:06:46] Speaker C: Definitely that sort of thing happens, you know. Do you remember that song Alice? Who's Alice? [00:06:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:53] Speaker C: So Smokey wrote the song living next door to Alice, but in one of the outtakes of the recordings, they were trying to make, what was his name? Norman, the lead singer. Laugh. And so the guys that did all these great harmonies every time, living next door to Alice and the guys. Alice. Who the fuck is Alice? And then 20 years later, somebody made a song out of it. [00:07:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:18] Speaker C: But that was actually an outtake, so. Yeah. Yes, definitely. I think that happens. It happened with us, with the band I was in. We'd just make stupid lyrics. [00:07:27] Speaker A: What band was you in? [00:07:28] Speaker C: Yeah, um, I was in a band called Future shop. [00:07:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:34] Speaker C: Was employed as a background. Background singer and general show off. [00:07:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:40] Speaker C: The lead singer and songwriter was Mark Fennell. Genius. Absolute genius. He could turn his hand to anything. Die fly music, painting, sculpture. He was absolutely no longer with us, Mark. But, yeah, he wrote some great pop songs. [00:07:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:58] Speaker C: Electronic band. [00:07:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:00] Speaker A: Is there any other. Is there any other type of band? That's the question we're asking. Electronic is. [00:08:05] Speaker C: Yeah, well, after Mark just got bored with writing really, really good music, he got into painting. [00:08:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:14] Speaker C: And that was his. That was his stick. He'd do something. He'd do it really well and get bored and go do something else. [00:08:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:20] Speaker C: But I used to live with him with. At the manager's. Parents holiday. [00:08:26] Speaker B: Yes. [00:08:27] Speaker C: Long story. And all this musical equipment was left there, and I'd been doing harmonies with these guys from the Roller Inc. You know, we'd actually go around all the toilet blocks in Rockingham on the beach front to find good echoes, to do harmonies. [00:08:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:40] Speaker A: That's what. [00:08:41] Speaker C: True. [00:08:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:43] Speaker A: Normal people wouldn't do that, hang around toilets. [00:08:47] Speaker C: Well, can I tell you, in the old iteration of Rockingham City, when it was a lot smaller, Rockingham City shopping. [00:08:54] Speaker A: I saw a photo of it today. [00:08:55] Speaker C: Kebab. [00:08:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:56] Speaker C: Yes. I saw it as well. But there used to be a kebab shop down in the old end and where they had their convention hall and there was toilets next to it. And they had the best echo. We used to. Thursday nights, we used to go in there and sing a capella just for the echo. [00:09:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:13] Speaker C: Weird, but true. But no, the things you learn. Yeah. But Mark went off and decided to do painting and there was all this musical equipment. And I spoke to the manager and I said, look, I've got all these guys I sing with and they actually play instruments. I said, if we can put together three or four songs, will you let us use the musical, the equipment? And we did. And we actually put together four songs. And he said, hey, do you want to be the support act for the Runaway boys at the Waikiki Hotel? And that's where my second band started up, so. [00:09:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Cool. [00:09:47] Speaker A: What was the name of the second band? [00:09:49] Speaker C: Aslan. After the lion in the line. The witch and the wardrobe. [00:09:54] Speaker B: Yep. Cool. [00:09:55] Speaker A: Hey, what about, um. So you do a lot of karaoke, do you? When you do it, do you actually look at the screen and. And read the words or you just pick a song that you know all the words to? [00:10:05] Speaker C: Um, 99% of the time, I know the words. [00:10:08] Speaker A: So is that really karaoking or you're just singing along? [00:10:12] Speaker C: I'm just singing along, you know, I mean, 50% of the time, the word. The words are wrong anyway. [00:10:18] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:10:21] Speaker C: That's not the words. That's not the correct words. [00:10:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:23] Speaker C: Um, but sometimes if it's a song, a more. A newer song that I'm familiar with and quite comfortable. Yeah, I'll follow the words because I don't really know the words. I just know the tune and how the phrasing goes, you know? [00:10:38] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:10:40] Speaker C: And I'll make shit up as I go along as well, which is how I roll. [00:10:43] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I do that all the time. [00:10:49] Speaker C: Do you mind? I just have to pop up and get something. [00:10:52] Speaker B: Okay. [00:10:52] Speaker C: My apologies. So I'll be seconds. [00:10:55] Speaker A: I'm gonna just. Boy. [00:10:58] Speaker C: No, that's fine. [00:11:00] Speaker A: I'm gonna just talk about my new hat. I got a new hat from the band twelve Pass act. Um, because it's hot. So twelve pass acts are banned in Fremantle. Great little band. Oh, yeah, I know. I'm trying to grow it out. The screen doesn't do justice. I'm not that bald. [00:11:28] Speaker C: I am. [00:11:30] Speaker A: It's not like it's getting worse, but. [00:11:33] Speaker C: It is what it is. [00:11:34] Speaker A: You can't see it on the screen properly. I know, it's a mess. I just had a cut too. And, um. And the ladies that cut my hair did it nice. And now I can't keep it nice. I'm gonna go get some stuff to put in my hand. [00:11:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:50] Speaker A: So what did you go get? [00:11:53] Speaker C: Oh, um. Yeah, I just realized I'm talking away and smiling at people. I, um. Because of my age and a few motorcycle accidents, I wear a plate. And I just realized, oh, I've got all these gaps in my teeth, so I have to get my plate. Motorcycle. The veins, the vein inside of me. [00:12:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:12] Speaker A: So, all right, so you. We were talking last week about where we dj'd and things like that. Apart from the ledger in. I know you did the quater and the roller rink. [00:12:23] Speaker B: Did you. [00:12:23] Speaker A: Have you djed anywhere else? [00:12:25] Speaker C: Yeah, well, there's the George and the dragon. [00:12:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:32] Speaker C: What else was there? George and the dragon. I tend to djing. You know, weddings and birthdays and that sort of thing. Um, that. That Waikiki hotel. [00:12:44] Speaker B: Yep. [00:12:44] Speaker C: I. I did their New Year's Eve thing, which is kind of weird. Do you remember, um, the turn of the century, 2000? [00:12:51] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, the. Yeah, the millennium bug and all that. [00:12:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:55] Speaker C: Yeah. So, because it was turning to the year 20, 1999, you know, Princeton and all that, every venue. Every venue in Perth was charging. You had to pre book and they were charging a huge amount of money. [00:13:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:11] Speaker C: And now, Richard, who was the operations manager at the Waikike Hotel, who I don't particularly get on with, but he's a very smart man. He said, well, and Brian Walker convinced him, he said, well, why don't we just get the gear in for Al and he can do our New Year's and do it for free. And we did. We set up the sound out the front in the open area and I. I dj. We charge nothing. [00:13:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:40] Speaker C: And it was hugely successful night. So, uh. Yeah, I did the Waikiki hotel. The last time I djed wasn't a venue, but it was a. Have you heard of the girls night out? [00:13:53] Speaker B: No. [00:13:54] Speaker C: It's a cancer charity thing. So twice, twice a year they. They do this girls night out event where it's just females, rich females. [00:14:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:04] Speaker C: Know, who donate money to this charity and. Yeah, I, um. My mate Brad was the dj there, but he wrote me in to come and help me and he wrote me in to do a couple of sets, but that was pretty much the last time I dj'd. [00:14:15] Speaker B: So. Yeah. [00:14:16] Speaker C: Yeah, I haven't dj'd a lot of venues in a band. I played in a lot of venues in a band. But, yeah. [00:14:22] Speaker A: What we were talking on our other show the other night about ice machines and why you don't ask ice in your drinks and people think it's so you get more drink in your drink. But I don't do it because I don't want the crunchy cockroaches in there. The frozen cockroaches. Have you ever had a rogue cockroach in your drink? [00:14:44] Speaker C: No, but I think somebody dropped acid in my drink once because I added I am. Yeah, I had a really weird. I went out drinking. It was at the laser. It was on a night off. I think it was a Wednesday night. And I. Well, I tripped. Yeah, I tripped for about two days. And then for months after, I'd had these flashback trips. [00:15:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:13] Speaker C: And somebody actually said, I was sitting down with somebody at a party and they said, you've had an acid trip. Somebody's. Somebody dropped acid in your drink. [00:15:21] Speaker B: So. [00:15:21] Speaker C: Yeah, but no, I never had cockroaches in. [00:15:25] Speaker A: Yeah, never had a crunch. What's the worst thing. What's the worst thing you've had to eat? Can you get a. Oysters? [00:15:37] Speaker C: Oysters? Oysters. Fucking hate oysters. Yeah, I. You know, and you get these things. Have you ever tried them? And one day I was at a winery and it was one of those set menu things. You pay a squillion dollars. [00:15:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:55] Speaker C: Beautiful winery. And then you get all these courses. I'm gonna have to try. I had oysters. Or natural. Yeah, yeah. It's like, really? People eat this shit. [00:16:05] Speaker A: I've only ever had it in. [00:16:07] Speaker C: It's. It's like eating cold snot. [00:16:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:10] Speaker A: Like big goober. Not just a little. [00:16:15] Speaker C: Yeah, oysters. [00:16:16] Speaker B: Nah, not. [00:16:17] Speaker C: Not a thing. Not a fan. [00:16:18] Speaker B: No. [00:16:19] Speaker A: I thought you, like, been to Thailand and places, you'd be eating all sorts of stuff. [00:16:24] Speaker C: No, you said. No, you said the worst thing you can eat. [00:16:28] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I know, but I don't. [00:16:31] Speaker C: Mind deep fried crickets. [00:16:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:33] Speaker C: Cat dogs and stuff like that. Oh, probably a bit of cat, you know. I don't mind that stuff. You said the worst. It's like oysters. [00:16:43] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:16:45] Speaker C: I've eaten some interesting things, actually. The worst thing, and it wasn't that long ago. So we've moved into this. So I've moved into this old house, and there is a huge black ant nest under the house. Constantly fighting them, constantly fighting them. And they cannot put, like, a plate with scraps down because it'll be overrun by ants within 3 hours. But I am, I have this, these snacks. It's, you know, the fried noodles. [00:17:15] Speaker B: Yep. [00:17:16] Speaker C: And peanuts. [00:17:17] Speaker B: Yep. [00:17:17] Speaker C: The chili chow. [00:17:18] Speaker B: Yep. [00:17:19] Speaker C: And one night and I'd eaten about just this tiny little ramekin, and I'd eaten about half and I crashed out on the couch. You know, it was a weekend sort of thing. And I reached over and I had three or four mouthfuls of this stuff. And I thought, I'm gonna go into the kitchen now. Yeah, I'll finish. So I'm gonna go to the kitchen, wash the ramekin out, get a drink of water and run out into the kitchen. And the ramekin was crawling with ants. So I've obviously eaten. Stack of hands. [00:17:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:47] Speaker C: Um. Tasted all right. [00:17:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:17:51] Speaker C: What can I say? [00:17:54] Speaker B: Yes. [00:17:55] Speaker A: They've never woken up with a cold pizza and cigarette butts in it. We're just gone. [00:18:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:01] Speaker C: No, I have more dignity than that, Paul. But then again, we're talking to you, aren't we? [00:18:07] Speaker A: Dignity? There's no such thing. I remember, um, years and years ago, I don't know if this has ever happened to you, but, um, I was djing up in Cannes, a place called Madonna's. Now, the night, the club itself was a small club that was at the front and at the back. There's a bigger nightclub at the back. But the back part was, um, the gate was the local gay bar. So they had all the gay bar, gay people, lesbians, the drag queens, they're all out the back. But in the front bar is where they had all the strippers for all the blokes and all the guys and things. And this one night they had a band on, were djing there, and it was a jamaican band. They had just come back from New guinea, but they were based out of Melbourne, so. And that also, obviously, that Australians, I think I can't remember. But anyway, one of the guys from the band comes up to me in the dj box, pulls, reach into his pocket, pulls out a handful of weed and says, you want some of this? This is good stuff from New guinea. I'm like, no, no, don't, don't smoke it. So I was telling one of my mates what had happened. He said, oh, yes, stupid idiots. And all the barmaids, all the strippers are smoking. We all smoke it. If he comes back, make sure you get some. So he come back, I said, I'm. I'll take some off you, actually. I'll take some off your hands. So he's just reaching his pocket. Give me a handful of stuff. So I've given it on to the next guy. And then the bands out playing was on stage playing. So we've all ducked out the front, across the road to have a chuff on some, some joints and things. And we're just having a bit of a smoke. And I don't know, we must have been out there for a bit longer than what was supposed to be going on, but because, uh, all of a sudden, the nightclub went quiet, staying quiet. There's what, no sounds coming out of sing. The band had obviously finished, and this guy come running out of the front of the night of the bar or the, the club dj, where's the dj? And I'm over the road, getting off me tit. I'm over here. Race back in. Can't remember anything what I did. I was off me, off me tree. [00:20:12] Speaker B: Hey. [00:20:13] Speaker A: And apparently I mixed the best dj's ever seen. [00:20:17] Speaker B: Huh. [00:20:19] Speaker C: I've done those sort of shows off my tip. [00:20:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:22] Speaker A: The best dj rig. I reckon I was mixing things like the Doors with dance music and just rock music, just throwing shit together and reckons I did the band. [00:20:32] Speaker C: Oh, actually, no, I did. I djed at the nightclub in Mandra. Because you've made me think about that. And he's, he's a real, really weird story. So when I used to dj at the nightclub, at the whiskey a go go. Yeah, they used to. They'd make me remember craftsman. [00:20:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:54] Speaker C: Wine carafes. [00:20:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:20:56] Speaker C: So they used to do me carafes of bourbon and coke for about $2. And I could have as many as I wanted. [00:21:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:03] Speaker C: And it was $2. So when I left the night club and I went to work at the, the Mandarin nightclub doing their Thursday nights or their witness at all, and I said I was part of the deal. I work better when I drink on the job. Just another tangent just happened there. So I've got to park that one. So I did crafts of Bundy and coke. [00:21:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:33] Speaker C: Oh, God, I used to drink Bundy. [00:21:36] Speaker B: Oh. [00:21:37] Speaker C: Anyway, but the manager came up to me after, after a couple of gigs, and he says, oh, we're a bit worried about you. You're drinking too much. It's like paying for it. [00:21:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:48] Speaker C: Yeah. No, look. Oh, no, actually, no, it's free. [00:21:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:52] Speaker C: And I said, look, I'm happy to pay for it. It's not that we just think you're drinking too much. And it's like, well, am I doing a bad job? No, no, no. We just think you're drinking too much. Yeah, okay, well, I'll pay for it. No, no, no, you don't have to pay for it. It's like, the fuck do you want? [00:22:10] Speaker A: Concerned about your health. [00:22:11] Speaker C: You live up maybe, I have no idea. But the tangent I went on, I remember because when I did Thursday nights at the Lizarian, yep. I used to go to the bottle home and grab a six pack. Yeah, pay for a six pack. And I had it in my own special fridge so I didn't have to wait at the bar and pay bar prices. And I did the show, I DJ, it was pretty much every night. Six pack? [00:22:34] Speaker B: Yeah, off you go. [00:22:36] Speaker C: There was one night I did a Thursday night, and for some reason I did it sober. Maybe I wasn't feeling well. I didn't buy any beer. I did it sober. And Brian Walker, the assistant manager, saw me the next day and he says, don't you ever dare do a show of sabra again. I will pay for your beer. So I obviously I work better drunk. [00:22:59] Speaker A: I think a lot of DJ's do because a lot people don't realize the pressure that you're under to perform. And if a DJ goes there and he says he's not under any pressure and he's got no stress, he just goes on DJ's. He's either practice his set every day for his whole life and, you know, and there's, there's no skill to it. He's just playing muscle memory or, you know, or he's gonna fuck up because I sick have bad anxiety before dj in a show. So did I start talking about chuck bucket last week? [00:23:35] Speaker B: No. [00:23:35] Speaker A: In Kalgoorlie I used to get so what? Stressed out and anxious before show. I used to have a bucket or like even I think they have one at liquids as well. I used to have a bucket before I show. I'd spend five or ten minutes just dry reaching into a bucket just because I was so stressed out. [00:23:53] Speaker B: And then. [00:23:53] Speaker A: But once I got over those, over that dry reaching and that, um, anxious anxiety attack or whatever you want to call it now on. Yeah, I'm at work and I was away. [00:24:04] Speaker C: Yeah, I kind, I kind of get that. I don't get throw, throw up anxious before a performance. I do remember after the swinging pig was built and I was still the Thursday night DJ at the Lees written. And there was a scottish couple, Jim and Mary, I think, who I talked to, we were acquaintances. [00:24:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:27] Speaker C: And I was, I remember one Thursday night before the gig and I'm having a beer over there and I'm talking to Jim and his misses and he stopped me. He says, what you're piercing for? It's like, oh, no, I'm just thinking about, but you've been doing this all your life. There goes my scots accent. So I'm not going to try. So it basically said to me, look, are you nervous? It's like, no, I'm not nervous. I'm just thinking about this the night. But yeah. And then I realized after he pointed out I was pacing up and down, you know. And, um, so, yeah, I used to. [00:25:03] Speaker A: Get strangely, I used to live strangely. [00:25:05] Speaker C: Enough when I, yeah, I used to brag doing theater. I don't get nerves. Yeah, doing theater. I just walk on stage and just do it. But yeah, anyway, sorry I walked all over you there, Paul. [00:25:21] Speaker A: I just get, I just get so anxious. But this bucket in Kalgoorlie ended up having its own, um, wardrobe. It had a wig, it had face on it, it had outfits, it had like underwear. Someone donated a pair of g string, a g string for it. And people used to come and take the bucket out of the DJ box and take it around the club and it had a personality all of its own. It was crazy. Hey. [00:25:54] Speaker C: I do remember, I'm trying to remember the guy because in the, in the eighties, yeah, the bands in Rockingham, we all knew each other, you know, we all got quite well. There was a competitive edge to it. Just trying who it was. I think it might have been Manny from the effects. Yeah, but you see him on stage, just them. It may have been Manny. It may have been one of the other guys from one of the other bands, but he was just the confident rock God kind of thing. Yeah, but, um. Yeah, absolutely. Up chucking everywhere before, before going on each set. So you do three sets before going on each set, be up chucking just from nerves and. Yeah, yeah, get on stage, rock God. [00:26:38] Speaker A: Got to get it off, get it out. Get the evil out. Get the devil out. So have you ever had like, I had a bad experience once. This is why I don't do private parties anymore. I got asked to do a gig, was an engagement party in Rockingham. And they said, there's a guy that hired me, said his son is there starting the show, starting it off, and all I have to do is turn up and just take over from him. He had to go to a gig halfway through the event, the party. So I turned up, I went down and see that fly buzzing around. And I get there and he packs up one of the two CD players. He packs up, takes one away with him. [00:27:20] Speaker B: I want. [00:27:21] Speaker A: What are you doing? I need two cities to DJ, so I'm not gonna take this one with me. Didn't anyone say, tell you that you had to bring another, another CD? Said, no one told me jack shit. So I just turned up to take over from you. And so I had to DJ. A whole engagement party with one CD player. [00:27:41] Speaker C: You would have been jogging between every song. No. Been there. Yeah. [00:27:48] Speaker A: And that was, that was that. From that time after, that was like, not never again. I won't do private parties anymore. It was a killer. [00:27:56] Speaker C: Well, I had what? I had one. You can always. There's always a sign. So it was one of my friends 50th birthday parties. And my friend Brandon, he was the main dj, but because it was a mutual friend's birthday party and he knows all DJ's and all that, and he said, I'll look, al, you want to do a set? I said, for sure gonna do a set. And he had a couple of other guys lined to do sets. And one of his, one of the guys that works for him was going to be one of the DJ's. So we get up there and I'm pretty sure it was Brandon. Brandon. Brandon started the show and Brandon is an excellent dj. He's an amazingly. [00:28:37] Speaker A: Is this the one that one I met at that liquids? [00:28:41] Speaker C: No, I was actually going to say, I don't think it is, because you actually said that, um, you had to rescue him a couple of times because he sets went downhill. [00:28:48] Speaker B: Yes. [00:28:48] Speaker C: It's not the same. It's not the same guy because the band and I know he's a superb. [00:28:54] Speaker A: Well, maybe he didn't, because he used to go in there and mix r and B stuff and Rockingham crowd at that time weren't into that stuff. And I remember he was short. [00:29:04] Speaker C: Brandon kind of likes, kind of likes r and b, but he understands the crowd. He's got an intimate understanding of the crowd. [00:29:11] Speaker A: Anyway, maybe you learn. [00:29:14] Speaker C: Maybe. Or maybe a different guy. Yeah, but I digress. So Brandon did his set and I think I was supposed to be the next on or after the next one, but this guy that worked for him, you know, and he's a typical neck beard kind of guy, and he rocks up with his road case with all his CDs, and he's all dressed up to the nines is like, yeah, don't think we're gonna be djing tonight because he was determined that was his gig and you get that sort of impression sometimes. I didn't mind. I mean, at the end of the day, as I said last week, I'm retired. I don't like the stress of djing anymore. I love music. I still love music. I'm in that weird situation where music that I didn't particularly like when I was younger, I'm now listening to it going, oh, that's good stuff. [00:30:06] Speaker A: What type of stuff? [00:30:07] Speaker C: Yeah. Oh, you know, I was not a fan of Nirvana, not a fan of the Stones. My mate was nuts on the jam. [00:30:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:20] Speaker C: And I was like, I can take them or leave them. But now, you know, and I listen back to this, this stuff now I'm old and I go, oh, shit, that's, that's not bad music. Yeah. But that's, uh, that's an artifact of getting older, I presume. [00:30:38] Speaker A: I'm getting younger. I think I'm getting, yeah, I'm getting younger. My kids reckon I've got the taste of a twelve year old girl. [00:30:48] Speaker C: You're talking to the guy that went and saw cold blade with his daughter in November. [00:30:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:53] Speaker C: And loved it. [00:30:54] Speaker A: I just come back from Chris Isaac with my son. [00:30:57] Speaker C: Yeah, well, Chris is old school, but yeah. [00:31:00] Speaker A: Yeah, that's a good show if you get to see Chris Isaac, so make sure you go and see, check him out. [00:31:06] Speaker C: Oh, actually, you know who you should go see if you ever get a chance. You may never have liked her. Um, and, but she always comes to Perth and plays at the Astor Cinema is Belinda Carlisle. [00:31:15] Speaker A: Oh, you know, we saw in Mandra. [00:31:17] Speaker C: She, she's so much fun. [00:31:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:20] Speaker C: You, I've never seen anybody who enjoys performance as much as she does. [00:31:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:25] Speaker A: Now she's great and she, I know. [00:31:27] Speaker C: There'S a lot of backing tracks. [00:31:29] Speaker B: Yep. [00:31:29] Speaker C: You know, but it's a great gig. And I just get the impression with her, it's even now she gives off this impression of, wow, you guys came to see me. [00:31:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:42] Speaker C: I'm so impressed she gives off that impression. We went, loves doing what she does. [00:31:47] Speaker A: Yeah, we, we went to, we saw in Mandurah before, before she started doing a regular Aster gig. She went to Mandra? Yeah, it was the first time she toured in Australia for ages. And we went there and I took, we took out, took my daughter there and my daughter and her mum, they were up dancing and Belinda actually pointed out to him. I was surprised that such a young girl up there with new decalog songs and she. [00:32:13] Speaker C: When last time I took my daughter and they'd actually taken the seating out, so there was mosh pit. So we were standing and my daughter's singing all the songs at the top of the voice and all these old farts are looking at going, you know all the words. [00:32:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:29] Speaker C: Really? [00:32:30] Speaker A: It's not hard to know the words to Alex. Cecile. [00:32:38] Speaker C: Settle down. [00:32:39] Speaker A: So, John, but when we're at. [00:32:41] Speaker C: This is Belinda we're talking about. I love Belinda. Under my bed anytime she likes. [00:32:47] Speaker A: I have got a copy of the Penthouse magazine she did the spread for. Or Playboy, one of the two. I've got a copy of it. [00:32:55] Speaker C: Oh, can we. I didn't know about that. Can we stop this podcast? I just need to look something up. I need to look up some music on my phone. [00:33:07] Speaker A: Yeah, blinder Carl. [00:33:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:09] Speaker A: Can't get enough of her. She's great, but, um. All right. [00:33:12] Speaker C: Oh, I forget. Oh, I forgot so much. My daughter might be watching this podcast. I'm not really like that, sweetie. [00:33:19] Speaker A: No, no, it was a music magazine. It was all about music. [00:33:24] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, music magazine. [00:33:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:26] Speaker A: So, um, 1996, you can hit us with some of the songs from six. Have a drink, face. You almost had a drink then. [00:33:33] Speaker C: Yeah, okay. Yeah, I don't drink much. [00:33:37] Speaker A: Got since guzzling. Come in. [00:33:39] Speaker C: Do you want the DJ voice? [00:33:42] Speaker B: Yep. [00:33:43] Speaker C: And now the ArIA 1995 top 100. And propping up the 99 above it is. Take that with how deep is your love. [00:33:56] Speaker A: That's a BG song, isn't it? [00:33:58] Speaker B: How do you. [00:33:59] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:34:00] Speaker C: It is, but it's a remake. All right, number 99. [00:34:05] Speaker B: Jeez. [00:34:06] Speaker C: Ready or not. No. Uh, Celine Dion falling into you. [00:34:12] Speaker A: Oh, no. Don't know that one. [00:34:16] Speaker C: Pet shop boys say, say a vida e. That's the way life is. Apologies for the pronunciation. [00:34:23] Speaker A: I must have been asleep in 1996 because I don't remember any of this. But this is the low end, so you might get better. [00:34:30] Speaker C: Yeah, let's jump up to 50, because that's crap in it. Number 50, Leanne Rhymes. Blue. Blue. I live for you. China Phillips. [00:34:46] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Yeah, keep going. [00:34:49] Speaker C: Somebody told me you're a dj in a previous life, Paul. Oh, but these songs, were they lying? Alex Party wrapped me up. [00:34:58] Speaker A: Yes, I've got Alex party. Yeah, we've got that on. [00:35:03] Speaker C: Yeah, sweet dreams. [00:35:05] Speaker A: Yep, got that one. Got the album at the back. [00:35:07] Speaker C: Tracy Bonham. Mother. I can't remember that. Maxi Priest featuring Shaggy, that girl. Or you know that one. [00:35:18] Speaker A: I probably do. I was pretty drunk. In 96. [00:35:22] Speaker C: Yes, I was. I metallica until it sleeps. [00:35:24] Speaker A: Oh, not a fan of Metallica but yeah. That fly still buzzing around Peter Andre. [00:35:31] Speaker C: Get down on it, get down on it. [00:35:34] Speaker B: I love. [00:35:35] Speaker A: I like Peter Andre. I reckon he should come back. I'm a fan of Peter Andre. Is good value. [00:35:45] Speaker C: Celine Dion. It's all coming back to me now. [00:35:47] Speaker B: Yep, yep. [00:35:48] Speaker A: It's made famous now because of joy and Siegfried. [00:35:54] Speaker C: TLC digging on you. Number 40, Mariah Carey and boys to men with one sweet day we'll stop at 45. What do you reckon? Yeah, 35. Number 39. The crossroads. The Taj crossroads. Bones, thugs and harmony. [00:36:16] Speaker A: I don't think 96 was a good reason. [00:36:17] Speaker C: Tiffany, 38, vaguely remember that one. Deep blue something. [00:36:21] Speaker B: Yep. [00:36:22] Speaker A: That's their only hit. [00:36:26] Speaker C: Boom, boom, boom. They met on a twelve inch single. The outlets. [00:36:31] Speaker A: Who was it? [00:36:31] Speaker C: Uh, out there. Brothers. [00:36:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:34] Speaker C: 37. Boom, boom. [00:36:36] Speaker A: Let me hear you say whale ayo. [00:36:38] Speaker B: Boom, boom, boom. [00:36:39] Speaker A: Let me hear say. [00:36:42] Speaker C: That sent me off on another ten. Do you remember that song called life at the outpost? Oh, no, I gotta look it up. It was good fun. [00:36:54] Speaker A: Shake the tree oh pineapple. [00:37:00] Speaker B: Melody. [00:37:02] Speaker C: Let's find ones that we know. Children, Robert Miles. [00:37:05] Speaker B: Yeah. No. Yeah. [00:37:06] Speaker C: Babylon Zoo. Robert Miles, spaceman at number 30. [00:37:09] Speaker A: Children Robert Miles was a good dance track. [00:37:12] Speaker C: Yes. Spaceman was a good one. Number 30. Who did Space man, Babylon Zoo. Number 30. Run away the cause. [00:37:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:24] Speaker C: Good car listening song. [00:37:25] Speaker B: Ah. [00:37:30] Speaker C: I like the songs no mercy did. They did all covers. But where do you go? Where do you go my lovely, lovely. Where do you go Morris with a song called ironic. And none of the lyrics are ironic. [00:37:49] Speaker A: That's the part that's ironic like. [00:37:51] Speaker C: It's like rain, rain on your wedding day. Isn't it ironic? No, it's not ironic. That's just fucking unfortunate. [00:38:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:03] Speaker C: The rembrandt. I'll be there for you. [00:38:05] Speaker A: Oh yeah, defend some. [00:38:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:08] Speaker A: I used to play that at Legerin. I used to put. Because I brought that back from Singapore, that album back from Singapore. It was before friends had come out and I'm. [00:38:17] Speaker C: Oh, can I tell you a story? Back when I was at the George and Dragon, those guys would listen anything that was good, they would listen to and dance to even if they didn't know the song. And way back then, australian music was six months behind Europe or the UK. So. And we. Our only music input was from countdown on Sunday nights. And you relied on Molly Meldrum telling you, I here's something new and upcoming, have a listen to this. And seriously, Australia was six months behind the UK. I had a friend, Jill. Hi, Jill. Looking away bigger at you, if you ever watch this. She came back with a couple of singles. She came back from. From the. From England with a couple of singles and she threw me a single and she said, play this. It is huge in the UK. I listened to it on and I would walk 500. No, no, no. It was. Well, well before that, I listened to it on Shira and went, oh, it's got a good beat. [00:39:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:20] Speaker C: And I figured out the beat and I played it. Possibly the first person in Australia to ever play it. Wham. Young guns. Go for it. [00:39:29] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:39:30] Speaker B: Cool. [00:39:31] Speaker A: And girls, you said you played girls on film all the time too, if. [00:39:34] Speaker C: I remember rightly, cuz film clip was hot. [00:39:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:40] Speaker C: Film clip was seriously hot. Yes. [00:39:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:44] Speaker C: But that was well after that time on girls on film. Yeah. [00:39:48] Speaker A: Oh, there you go. [00:39:49] Speaker C: But I'm from that area, you know, from when Duran, Duran Duran's first single, man bellows first single, ultraviolet single. [00:39:57] Speaker A: Did you hear about Chris Cross? [00:39:58] Speaker C: I'm from that. [00:39:59] Speaker A: You hear about Chris Cross, a bass player from Ultraviolet. He died the other day. He died a couple days ago. [00:40:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:08] Speaker C: All the tributes have been wrong. [00:40:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:11] Speaker A: He's only 71 or something. He wasn't that old, so. [00:40:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:16] Speaker A: Miss in peace there, Chris Cross. We were talking about it and we thought when we first come out, Tommy helps me with the other one, the other shows, he thought it was Christopher Cross. [00:40:26] Speaker C: No, Christopher Cross is a different american artist. [00:40:28] Speaker B: Yeah. So. [00:40:29] Speaker A: And then you got crisscross. Remember the band? Crisscross will make you jump. [00:40:32] Speaker C: Oh, the band. Chris. Chris Cross. [00:40:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:35] Speaker A: That's where they close back. The front, too. [00:40:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:40:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:39] Speaker A: So what number we up to? [00:40:41] Speaker C: Oh, sorry, I was just. So where do you go? No mercy. Alison Morrison. The Rembrandt's Gina G at number 23. No doubt. Just a girl. [00:40:54] Speaker B: Yep. [00:40:54] Speaker C: At number 22, I'm just a girl. Oh, weird one. Adam Clayton and Larry Mullen. Also the guys from you two. Theme from mission impossible, number 21. That brings us to the twenties. Well, the late George Michael. Fast love. We'll leave it there. What do you reckon? [00:41:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep. [00:41:16] Speaker C: For the time being, yeah. [00:41:18] Speaker A: Come back from. I can't believe 96 was so bad for music at the moment. There's a couple of good songs in there. Doesn't really. Standing out. [00:41:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:29] Speaker A: Gina G. I like Gina G. That was a bit of a hit for. To get people dancing in a nightclub. [00:41:35] Speaker C: And so you're actually. You're actually right. It's, uh. Oh, there's a good New Zealand band in there. With a good song. [00:41:42] Speaker A: I don't say Dave Dobbin. [00:41:43] Speaker C: Um, no, I'm actually interviewed him on the radio. [00:41:49] Speaker A: I was playing Kalgoorlie. That's all they wanted me to play. Play Dave Dobbin. Play Dave Dobbin. [00:41:57] Speaker C: At the end of the day, man, it's a dj's job. Play what the. [00:42:00] Speaker A: He can only play it once or twice. [00:42:02] Speaker C: Gets him on the dance floor. [00:42:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll have. [00:42:04] Speaker C: Yeah, twice as the max. I mean, I got embarrassed when I played a song three times, once in a night. Oh, that was. Do they know it's Christmas? It would just come out. [00:42:16] Speaker A: That's when you buy the CD with all the remixes on it. [00:42:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:42:21] Speaker B: So. Yeah. [00:42:23] Speaker A: What else? [00:42:26] Speaker C: All righty. [00:42:27] Speaker A: Are you gonna go back on the list? [00:42:28] Speaker C: Yeah, I know. I'm thinking a different year because this year's crap. [00:42:35] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll finish it off. We'll just finish it off and we'll pick another unix next. [00:42:40] Speaker C: Um, hey, Wonderwall. Oasis. Okay. Not bad. [00:42:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:48] Speaker C: My lover. [00:42:49] Speaker B: Yes. [00:42:50] Speaker A: More bush is more dancy. Where Oasis is more pub rock. [00:42:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:42:55] Speaker B: So. [00:42:56] Speaker C: But a good dj can make it work. [00:42:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:58] Speaker C: Yeah, probably not. Play them one after the other. Maximilian. Sexual healing. Shaggy. Boombastic. [00:43:10] Speaker B: It's Mister Boombastic. [00:43:12] Speaker A: Mister Lubber. Lubber. [00:43:16] Speaker C: We're coming up to your song anyway. Number 15. Give me one reason. Take Tracy Chapman at number 14, Los del Mar, featuring Petro Costano Macarena. [00:43:34] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:43:35] Speaker A: I can't do it. That's why I dj'd. [00:43:37] Speaker B: Because I couldn't. And dance. [00:43:37] Speaker C: That's why. [00:43:38] Speaker B: Dj. [00:43:38] Speaker A: I can't dance. Dj. [00:43:40] Speaker B: No. Dance. [00:43:46] Speaker C: Donald Lewis, I love you. Always, forever. [00:43:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. [00:43:48] Speaker B: I'm. [00:43:49] Speaker A: Donald Lewis is Welsh, I believe. [00:43:51] Speaker C: Savage garden. I want you. I don't know. Triple X Files theme breaks. [00:44:01] Speaker B: You're making me high. [00:44:06] Speaker C: G and A. [00:44:08] Speaker A: You're breaking up. [00:44:09] Speaker C: You popping. [00:44:10] Speaker A: You sounded like popcorn. [00:44:13] Speaker C: That's all right. It was a rubbish song anyway. Number nine. What's club got to do with it? Number eight. Oh, num. Number eight. Sitting at 68 beats per minute. Mark Morrison with return of the map. [00:44:26] Speaker A: Return of the mat. Yep, I remember that one. [00:44:30] Speaker C: Missing everything but the girl. That's a good song. Jane Osborne. Crap song. One of us. [00:44:37] Speaker A: Do you know who wrote Spice Girl? Do you know who wrote one of us? Eric Brazilian from the hoodoos. [00:44:44] Speaker C: Oh, really? [00:44:45] Speaker B: Yep. [00:44:45] Speaker A: He's touring at the moment with tenure. Doko. I know this because I was supposed to interview him and he decided to go out to dinner instead of do the interview. Tenure. Doco. Tenure. Doko myself was sitting there like, where is he? What's going on? So she rang him up, um, because he was in the States at the time before he came here. He's, oh, I had it down as the 19th, not the 9th. He was out for dinner. [00:45:14] Speaker B: Yep. [00:45:16] Speaker C: Spice Girls at number five with wannabe. [00:45:19] Speaker B: Yep. [00:45:20] Speaker A: Can't go past the Spice Girls. [00:45:23] Speaker C: And who can forget this one? OMC number four. How bizarre. [00:45:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:30] Speaker A: Stormy car. [00:45:31] Speaker C: Stormy on. I can't remember this one. Power of the dream that remember that one. Another Celine. Oh, how much Celine Dion. This is why it was a crap year. So much Celine Dion. Because you love me at number three. Fuji's killing me softly. [00:45:50] Speaker A: I hate the food is killing. [00:45:51] Speaker C: One time. Two times. All right, drum roll, drum roll. [00:45:59] Speaker A: Has Ann Lee two times. [00:46:01] Speaker C: No. Number one, los del Rio macarena. [00:46:06] Speaker A: I thought we'd done that. You said when he said that one, is it again? [00:46:09] Speaker C: No, it was lost del Mar featuring Pedro Castano. But this is just Los del Rio Macarena. [00:46:17] Speaker A: Well Jesus, how many times did we get spoiled with that in 1996? [00:46:22] Speaker C: Yeah, it was pretty crap here, wouldn't it? [00:46:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:24] Speaker C: Oh, actually I didn't notice that there's a play, play tune button. Yeah, let's not worry but oh no, I've got me airpods in. Can't hear it. There you go. [00:46:35] Speaker A: You don't want to get banned. [00:46:36] Speaker C: So anyway, what are you doing as a living now? [00:46:39] Speaker A: Um, I work in oil and gas and part time podcaster. [00:46:45] Speaker C: Yeah, I didn't ask about what you. [00:46:47] Speaker A: Wait, yeah, yeah, I just work in oil and gas and I can't really say because people start protesting and throwing shit at me. [00:46:57] Speaker C: Yeah, I work for it. I work for a health fund. [00:47:01] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I know. I'm paying premiums to you. [00:47:06] Speaker C: Oh nice. Yeah, listen, paying its pain as well. So you're, you're supporting my habit, my weekly habit? [00:47:14] Speaker A: No, no, always happy to support your weekly habit. So I'm assuming that's beer. [00:47:22] Speaker C: Uh, beer and going on trips. Yeah, yeah, that's my whole, I've got this big scrape down the side of my car which I really should take to the panel beater and just pay the insurance and get it fixed. And it's like, no, I'm saving for my next trip away. Yeah, that's my big thing at the moment, you know, going away. [00:47:41] Speaker A: My car had, it died today. I'm driving back from the train station and I've got to go to, go to the shops just to do some shopping, get some stuff for dinner and shit. And I pulled into the car park, and I'm just going around into it trying to get into a car park, and my car just lost all power, just stopped. And now I can't get it started. [00:48:05] Speaker C: And I'll tell you what, they've not pay you enough in oil and gas for you to be able to maintain your car? [00:48:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I do. $160 to get it bloody towed home. And I only live, what, 2 km away. The guy actually took me around the neighborhood just to get my money's. [00:48:25] Speaker B: Like. [00:48:25] Speaker A: Oh, so now that's gonna be another expense. [00:48:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:28] Speaker A: So now the mechanics got to come around until me. [00:48:31] Speaker B: What's wrong? [00:48:31] Speaker A: I think I might have been the top. I got a funny feeling the timing belt might have snapped because everything turns. [00:48:38] Speaker B: Over. [00:48:41] Speaker C: On that night. You were saying last week, like you've been married a couple of times, divorced and all that sort of thing. Much as you love the kids, and I love my daughter a bit. [00:48:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:56] Speaker C: She will pay off. [00:49:01] Speaker B: You dropped out. [00:49:01] Speaker A: You dropped out there. [00:49:04] Speaker C: I'm just saying that, um, you know, when, when you have the whole separation thing and you do the right thing, you pay child support and all that because it is the right thing to do. But when your child or children finally come to waves and you go, I've got money again. It's so nice. [00:49:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:49:25] Speaker A: Well, that's the worst thing now, because we like one of the worst things. I'm my own worst enemy. But you pay the child support. You've got to pay the child support. But if the child doesn't leave home. [00:49:41] Speaker B: Yeah. What? [00:49:41] Speaker A: Because nowadays children aren't leaving home until much later in life, right. So they normally stick around into their twenties, even though child support stops at 18. I know for my ex that that money goes to keeping her household running, pays for my son, and in a couple of years, that disappears. And it's, um, you know, you don't want to see kids in that going. But tell you what, after you getting the money back, after when you, like you said, when they turn 18, such a relief. But he'll end up getting it back anyway, starting one way or another. [00:50:27] Speaker C: No. Yeah. [00:50:29] Speaker A: Then you got $20 for. [00:50:35] Speaker C: I think that's what a good dad does, you know, it's like, it's like, yeah, just reach out. Me help reach out on there. [00:50:46] Speaker A: The worst thing is, one of the hardest things is when you have a new partner and you go try and explain to them you're paying. Paying your child support things and bits and pieces. [00:50:55] Speaker B: So. [00:50:56] Speaker A: And it is a bit awkward and hard at times. But, you know, everyone's understanding of it. You got to do it. It's a really weird. [00:51:05] Speaker C: But at the end of the day, Paul, it is the right thing to do. [00:51:09] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, it is. [00:51:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:51:12] Speaker A: So does your daughter live with you or do you live with her? [00:51:16] Speaker C: No, she lives with her mum and she's good. She's in uni. She's learning to be a school teacher. It's amazing, that little four year old that used to sing songs and we used to sing songs together and watch the wiggles together and all that. She's now nearly 21 and she's not that far away from being qualified as a school teacher. [00:51:38] Speaker B: That'd be cool. [00:51:39] Speaker A: Yeah. You'll be able to sing along to the. [00:51:43] Speaker C: She's actually. She actually does that. I think, as part of her. As part of her teaching degree. She's also doing drama. Yeah. And musical theatre or something like that. But no, I went out with her and had lunch with her and her boyfriend at the markets yesterday. Oh, can I tell you about Frio? When was the last time you were. [00:52:01] Speaker A: Frio in the actual place? Freo or the footy? [00:52:05] Speaker C: Oh, no. Free. Over 300 fria. [00:52:08] Speaker A: Few months ago. A few months ago we went. Went in there. [00:52:11] Speaker C: Oh, it was great. I've forgotten that. [00:52:13] Speaker B: Good. [00:52:13] Speaker C: It is. And it made, I was actually thinking. [00:52:16] Speaker A: As it got better, because we went, there was empty. [00:52:20] Speaker C: Absolutely packed. Oh, you couldn't move to the markets. [00:52:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:27] Speaker C: And it's really weird because I remember when I was. And Frio was a port, this was before the America's cup. And Frio was a real port town. Yeah, it was. It was dark, dingy, very scary place to go to at nighttime. Seriously, the, the only places that were there were skates. I scrap ice skating ring. [00:52:51] Speaker B: Yep. [00:52:51] Speaker C: Which is now where Metros is. [00:52:53] Speaker B: Yep. [00:52:54] Speaker C: I learned to ice skate there. And it was Wednesday nights was go to skates. To ice skate. [00:52:59] Speaker B: Yep. [00:53:01] Speaker C: There was two nightclubs. I think there was tarantellas, or tarantulas, as we called it. And seriously, the, the carpet was so sticky, it would put Velcro to show. [00:53:12] Speaker B: Yep. [00:53:13] Speaker C: Oh, definitely. And then down on the waterfront, there was Sorokos, which was all the merchant sailors would go to Sirocco's, and I met some wonderful foreign sailors going to Sirocco. But it was. It was a dark, dingy, scary place at nighttime. And on Sundays it was empty. Absolutely. You could fire a cannon down the terrace and the only place that had people was the old Papa Luigi's and a lot of the black shirt, young crowd with black t shirts and desert boots would hang out there. And I actually remember one Sunday, I cannot remember the reason why, but I was walking down the terrace on the waves of the bus stop, which was at the train, and simply the fact I walked past Papa Luigi. Simply the fact that I was one guy who they did not know. I got chased to the bus. Absolutely. Fortunately, the bus was there. There was the other fact that back in the day, I was super fit and I was in the middle distance, running. So I thought it was quite funny, all these guys chasing me, going, yeah. And I'm like, yeah, I'm going to be able to outrun you guys. Miles and Miles and Miles. But, yeah, the bus was there, but that's what frio was like. Walked into it on Sunday and if you didn't belong there, you got chased. [00:54:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:37] Speaker C: And then the America's cup came along. [00:54:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:39] Speaker C: And it got gentrified. [00:54:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:42] Speaker A: Well, last time I went there, the place was empty. It was like. [00:54:44] Speaker B: It was hardly. There's like. [00:54:46] Speaker A: There's no Mac or HJ's there. Was there a McDonald's there? [00:54:50] Speaker C: No. Yeah. I actually pointed that out to generous, like. Oh, that. That's. That was where the old fast eddies was. [00:54:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:00] Speaker C: So it was the HJ. So it still clothes down, but. No, it was. It was really quite busy. I'd have. We had a lot of fun, you know, had a meal there and. [00:55:06] Speaker A: Yeah, time zone. You got time zone. [00:55:10] Speaker C: We walked past it with. I was tempted. [00:55:13] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:55:17] Speaker A: All right, well, we're coming up to our hour. We're getting close to the hour mark. [00:55:23] Speaker C: I think we are. So shall we call it quits, because I'm old and I really, really need to have a wee break. I need to have a wee break. [00:55:31] Speaker A: We break, milady. [00:55:33] Speaker C: A wee break. Oh, there's my scots. Actually, it's come back. [00:55:37] Speaker B: There it is. [00:55:38] Speaker C: The new. It's come back. The new. I just come back from Australia. The place is fraught with danger. The day I arrived, the woman was eaten by a fucking crocodile. [00:55:50] Speaker B: Oh, cool. [00:55:51] Speaker A: All right, well, thanks for joining us for another chat. We'll see you again next Monday. [00:55:58] Speaker C: Can I say it, Paul? [00:55:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:01] Speaker C: Good night, Australia.